Hi Kevin...I listened to your video. You are so surprised that so many people can be WRONG in their interpretation of scripture, and you are so convinced that you are right. I hardly know where to begin to tell you this in Christian "love"....you are so totally WRONG. But the sad thing is, you will not do research to learn where you are wrong. I know this because I, myself, have told you before.

When I told you what I believe to be the truth, you answered with a whole page of copied scripture...and that tells me nothing. I know the bible as much as our Lord will open for me, but I search daily....sometimes ALL DAY.

I could go over the whole thing again, but you probably won't pay any attention again, either.

You are a "dispensationalist" in your beliefs. And this is a WRONG doctrine. Scoffield was wrong when he promoted it, and those who believe him are also wrong. According to your beliefs, there are 3 groups of people in the bible....Jews, Christians, and Gentiles. You believe that certain parts of the bible are directed to only certain of those groups....but Gentiles won't read the bible anyway (if they are one of the 3 groups)...so, that leaves Jews and Christians. Well, who came first...the Jews or the Christians. NEITHER. There is NO GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WERE BORN JEWS. Christians weren't referred to that name until Antioch...see Acts 11:26. People who have Judaen faith (a RELIGION) call themselves JEWS. IT IS NOT A RACE. Today's "Jews" (in the flesh) are a conglomerate of lots of races, especially the Khazars from the Russian area. They took on the religion of the "Jews" (Judaism) and began moving south. Read "The 13th Tribe" by Koestler. For you, this is a MUST READ.

This is a fairly good explanation in case you get some time to do some reading. Better yet, search the scriptures for the truth. I have.


http://www.disciples-of-jesus.net/dispensationalism.html


Now, back to what you were saying in your video. According to you, there are two plans of salvation....one for the Christians (faith in Jesus Christ for salvation), and another one for the Jews (they are supposed to go "Aha"! When Jesus Christ returns and finally become believers and be saved and given their promised land of the Nation of Israel.) And what is the Tribulation supposed to be for? It's for those who need it...determined by God. The Book of Revelation says absolutely nothing about "Daniel's 70th week"....if it does, POINT IT OUT!!! There is so much more I could rebut with, but you need to learn basics.

First of all, the bible says in Ephesians 4:4-6..."There is ONE body, and ONE Spirit, even as ye are called in ONE hope of your calling; (vs.5)ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism,(vs.6) ONE God and Father OF ALL, who is above all, and through all, and IN YOU ALL." The ONE BODY includes EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE ON THIS EARTH WHO ARE SAVED. Jews who ARE SAVED are now called "spiritual Jews", ALL people who are saved are called "spiritual Jews" or "Israel" (Gal.6:16) and Jews, and everyone else who are NOT saved are called "Gentiles". That's what the bible says.

There are NOT TWO GOSPELS...one for the Jews and one for the Church. If you believe in another way of salvation for the Jews, that is called ANOTHER GOSPEL. Galatians 1:8.."But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." Salvation apart from belief in Jesus Christ NOW is "another gospel". It might be a good thing for you to read the whole of the Book of Galations, as it points out a LOT of mistakes early Christians made while the Jews were trying to Judaize them after they became saved.

Galatians even tells us who ISRAEL IS....read 6:16. It is NOT the Jews.

In the OT, ISRAEL were those who believed in God (this began with Jacob). The Gentiles were the people who didn't. The NT is no different. God does not change. In the NT, believers in Jesus Christ are called "Israel" by God. They are also referred to as "spiritual Jews" because they have a "circumcision of the heart"(Romans 2:29). ANYBODY WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE are called GENTILES by God....even if they are "Jews" in the flesh. Jewish people believe in Judaism, which is a religion that Jesus Christ criticized. In God's eyes, ANYBODY who is not saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, God looks at them as Gentiles (whether they are Jews in the flesh or not). They are saved just like everyone else. Once the pre-wrath "rapture" (Rev.11) takes place, the only people who are left on earth are people who had refused to believe up to that time...it does not matter what their religion, including Jews. Then the world gets totally hammered with the Vial Judgments...including everyone on the earth at that time...including Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Catholics, Budddists, or Mormons, or anyone who does not become a believer during the Tribulation of 1260 days. It doesn't matter. Once God's wrath comes, it's all over for everyone who is left on earth.

As for the 144,000....they are the ISRAEL OF GOD....believers all over the world. Even I might be of the Tribe of Reuben. I don't know. You don't know, either...nobody does. They are NOT "Jews". I think one of the greatest questions on this subject would be "WHO WAS THE FIRST JEW"??? Answer that one. It wasn't Adam, Abraham, Moses, David....who was? There was no FIRST Jew unless you can tell me who, specifically, began the religion of Judaism....and did he have a "Mrs. Jew"? It wouldn't matter because it's a religion, and this is not spread by physical procreation.

There is so much more...but my fingers are getting tired.

Don't forget what God says in I Corinthians 15:46..."Howbeit that was not FIRST which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and AFTERWARD that which is spiritual."

This means that the OT (first things) were "natural", fleshy things and people who were a "shadow" of what was to come. The things in the NT are the SPIRITUAL fulfillment of the natural things told to us in the OT. God dealt with "natural Israel" (believers in God) in the OT, and He now deals with "spiritual Israel" (believers in Jesus Christ) in the NT. He DOES NOT go from the natural, to the spiritual, and then back to the natural again. God's kingdom is a spiritual kingdom that flesh and blood doesn't inherit..see I Cor. 15:50...and people who aren't taken out prior to the wrath (believers) will die in the flesh....all of them, including Jews, Muslims, Buddists, or whoever would not believe in salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

And that's the way the bible reads to those who understand what they are reading.

Arlene

Arlene,
I didn't post my video here at this forum. Steven posted it when he saw that it was uploaded on my youtube channel. It's obvious that you and I disagree about many things. I don't need to do any research to find the truth, but to study God's word. I never have said there is a different gospel for the Jews. Jews and Gentiles both must repent of their sins and believe on Jesus Christ for salvation. I totally reject this notion that Israel is the church. Have you read Ezekiel 36 and 37, which describes God bringing Israel back in to their land? Those chapters were fulfilled starting in 1917 with the Balfour agreement. Jews have flooded back in to the land of Israel since then, and on May 14th 1948, Israel became a nation once again. That land was a barren desert until the Jews started to return there. God blessed that land, and caused vegetation to grow again there when the Jews returned. If you read Ezekiel 38 and 39, those prophecies are still yet to be fulfilled, but it won't be long now. If Israel had not been under the supernatural protection of God, the Arabs would have already destroyed them by now. Look at what has happened in the wars Israel has had with the Muslim countries that surround them. God is preparing Israel for the 70th week of Daniel, and he will save a remnant of them as he said he would.
So, I completely reject Replacement theology, which is completely unbiblical! Follow after men like Joe Ortiz if you want to, but I will follow Jesus Christ, and the sound doctrines of his word.

Kevin