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 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:   Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." I Thess. 4:16-17 (KJV)

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An Alternate View on the Rapture


In the course of time in studying the scriptures and the different views presented on this forum, I have had to come to the conclusion that
there are only two resurrections, the resurrection of the just and the resurrection of the ****ed.


The promise that when we accept Christ that we are sealed to the end and can live like the world is unscriptural.


God looks after His elect and chosen bride IF she continues to do His Will in keeping the commandments to the end.


I see nowhere that the rapture is your escape in these endtimes, but instead scriptures speak of the Lord's protection is promised to the obedient in this time frame we are in as seen in this passage:

REVELATION 12:14-17

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

See also verse 6 of this same chapter which basically says the same.


IMHO the words "wilderness" and being "nourished", and "the earth" helping the woman does not sound like a rapture and being taken to Heaven.

Compare v. 14 given above with Exodus 19:4

"Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself."


When 1 Thessalonians 4:17 says, "Then we which are alive and remain", and we consider the perilous times coming, I've come to the conclusion that there will not be that many who shall be "alive and remain", and that's why it is worded that way. It's a case of working out your salvation with fear and trembling, Philippians 2:12, and being found righteous before Him, separated from the world and its snares.



Re: An Alternate View on the Rapture

Michael Rood says at the end of the 7 years, at the last trump

at the last trump

before the bowls....

at the last trump we get raptured. ( Thats not my plan, but then, I'm not in charge.)

The just shall live by faith.

We protect ourselves by being good, ( Deut 28 ) and by prayer

Lord help me walk by faith. Lord help me be good, make me obedient.

Give me a heart that loves to obey, give me a heart after God like David ...



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The great falling away of the faith, Michael Rood says is the church

that did not get raptured. They loose their faith in tribulation...he said the church in China was told they would not suffer, for example.

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Mostly I am still trying to work out the small stuff, like how do you get right with God? We in the church do not agree on the basics. LOL>

Remember the words of Jesus. Rev. 22: 14 Red letter Bible , Mt. 19:17, John 14:15, Mt. 5:18-20, Mt. 7:21, Mt. 12:50. Obedience is surely a key part to our faith. Be a doer of the word and not a hear-er only.


...decieving your own self.

Re: An Alternate View on the Rapture

No link. A search revealed the following:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/32485399/The-Jonah-Code-DISC-5-8-to-11-Youtube-videos-with-notes

4 videos? I would first like to know who this is and his website.


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Re: An Alternate View on the Rapture


Further to these scriptures which I quoted in my initial post:

Revelation 12:
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Verses 6 and 14 refer to the woman's fleeing into the wilderness in which God has prepared a certain place for her. The word "wilderness" is defined as being 'desolate', 'no water', 'uninhabited', and 'uncultivated', basically, a desert.

John the Baptist and the Lord Jesus were also called into the wilderness to fulfill their calling and to face certain adversaries.


John the Baptist who fulfilled Isaiah 40:3.

3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.


Jesus was also led into the wilderness to do battle with the temptations of the devil according to Luke 4:1, 42; Mark 1:35.


So it appears the woman, the bride, will be led into the wilderness to also prove her mettle in the face of a strong adversary, the dragon.

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Re: An Alternate View on the Rapture

Again, regarding the 'wilderness' protection of the Lord, the question of course that comes to mind is "Where?"

Immediately I thought of a sort of Exodus of God's people heading toward the Pyramid of Giza, the Queen's Chamber, a large area just below the King's. I've been there to view and it is indeed located in the wilderness, nothing but dry desert.

Where else would you be safe when the Planet of Destruction comes and the ensuing pole shift? If it's true that the Pyramid of Giza was built by Enoch, then it had to have survived the Great Worldwide flood in Noah's day and can do so again, along with God's Hand of protection.


Then I spotted this post on Steve Quayle's site in the Dreams and Visions section. If this has any semblance of truth, it sounds like another wilderness experience, that of the 144,000 Hebrews, Revelation 7:1-8, headed toward Mt.Zion where King David and the Two Witnesses shall be.

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Dream of Saints in Wilderness

Steve, I have followed you for Ten years and I appreciate everything you do and I pray for you and your family and our fellow Watchman.

I had a dream early this morning 31 Jan 2012. I was with a large group of people who looked to be dressed in israelite clothing from biblical times. We were in a desert region and surrounded by a lot of rock structure. We were camped out and there were two watchman on either side of us high up on the rocks looking out. I was telling someone, this is great because once the watchman spot the enemy we will be a day or two ahead of them. A man who had a long beard and I believe he was wearing a Talit or prayer shawl said " they cannot live out here like we can". ( I believe he said this two different times). This man was clearly a leader among us. Meanwhile I was talking to a group of Men that I was sitting with about the book on Enoch when the Men became distracted. I then heard the warning from the watchman myself (possible shofar warning, I can't realy remember the sound they made). Everyone started gathering the things that they carried and started moving further into the wilderness.

Side note: There was at least one pregnant woman with us. I only saw enough belongings that one could carry. The group of people felt like family.

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There are not going to be millions of Christians caught up - only those who have taken the narrow way who have made themselves ready.

Excerpt from a message of Elijah's dated 12 April 2011

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Then we have these rich elite people of this New World order such as the
Rothschilds and the Rockefellers joined to their bankster friends who are
determined to depopulate the whole Earth so that they and their chosen slaves
are left upon this whole Earth to be ruled by their evil leader Lucifer or
Satan. It will be like Hell upon this whole Earth when the prince of the
bottomless pit rules as described in Revelation 17:8.


But no matter what happens, Almighty God will preserve his true sons of Abraham
and His 144,000, His true very elect chosen few that are His true bride of
Christ which are also 144,000, written are written of in Revelation 7:1-8 and
Revelation 14:1-12.

Almighty God's Servant Prophet,

Elijah the Tishbite