I read somewhere about the date of announceent 2/11 or 112 which indicates the 112th Pope to rise after the 111th Pope resigns.

We would see shortly after this one after another many other signs pointing toward February 20 2013 - March 22 2013 period.

It seems Purim might be a big day for all of us ... maybe maybe ...

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Wow, I'm so excited with all that is happening with the resignation of the pope, and everything else! Well, you mentioned on Five Doves to comment on that video that defends the Pre-Wrath position of the Rapture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV2txxxdVEQ&feature=player_embedded.

All I know is the narrator giving that presentation is 100% correct in the position of the Rapture, and 99% correct in his presentation. So what about the 1%? There are two points that must be understood:



1. 2 Thess. 2: 6

2. No one desires to go through the great tribulation



The first point concerns with who the restrainer is in 2 Thess. 2: 6-7. The restrainer in vs. 6 is not the same in vs. 7. The restrainer in vs. 6 is the believing church (them that are doers of His doctrine; having ceased from sin the leads to death, which is different from sin that leads not to death; 1 Jn. 5: 16-17 ). Verse 6 is tied in with vs. 3 (the falling away) and with Dan. 8: 23 where the angel tells Daniel that "when the transgressors (the apostate church) comes to the full...". In other words, when most of Christendom believes and preaches and teaches a different gospel, having turned the truth into a lie, having forsaken the true gospel (fallen away), then "a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up." Well that king stood up on Jan. 20, 2009, and has come back to finish what he started. He's confirming (strengthening) the covenant (Dan. 9: 27 )!

2 Thess. 2: 6 is simply telling us that what has been restraining to keep "that man of sin" from being revealed is the believing church, but when the church comes to the full in committing this apostasy (teaching a false gospel) then "that man of sin" would be revealed. Now that "that man of sin" has been revealed this tells us that most of Christendom has come to the full in believing a lie. (How can evangelism efforts do any good if most of Christendom teaches a lie; Matt. 23: 15 )? But the narrator of this video correctly identifies Michael the Archangel in vs. 7, for when Michael stands up (removes himself; Dan. 12: 1; 2 Thess. 2: 7 ), who has been protecting, then the Wicked one is revealed.



The second point I would like to make is when the narrator says, "no one desires to go through the great tribulation." This needs to be understood, as it's a paradox. For instance, when the word of God says that we need to die so to live (John 12: 24). God is going to provide supernatural strength in that time of trouble (Ps. 91: 1-2 ). This is told us throughout the Psalms by king David and Moses, and throughout the entire bible.

When that time comes (which appears to be soon) His glory will fall upon His faithful, so to endure what they (the enemy) desire to do to His people (those in Christ), as this will be a witness against His enemies. Also, the trouble they give us, gives reason for Him to pour out His wrath upon an ungodly and disobedient people. Therefore, to not desire to go through the tribulation is in essence saying that we do not trust Him to provide His power and strength via the Holy Spirit to endure what is coming. The reason most fear the great tribulation is because they are still doing the sins that lead to death.



The WAY to endure what is coming is by dying to the deeds of the flesh, which means to cease from doing these sins (1 Cor. 6: 9-10; Gal. 5: 19-21), as He will send His Holy Spirit upon them that truly believe to empower them to endure. Remember Jesus said, "Let not your hearts be troubled: you believe in God, believe also in me" (John 14: 1 ). Also remember scripture says, "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear: because fear has torment. He that fears is not made perfect in love" (1 Jn. 4: 18 ).



THIS IS THE TRUTH: WE MUST CEASE FROM DOING THE SINS THAT LEAD TO DEATH SO TO ENDURE THE GREAT TRIBULATION!!!



"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me" ( John 14: 6 ).



In the love of Christ,

Greg

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Why do you focus so much on the timing of "the rapture" while seemingly ignoring the real meaning and sequence of endtime events ?

To me, the really amazing thing is the course of events and the purpose for the particular events happening. I have seen a very interesting analysis that is much different and more detailed than many of the, should I say, non-prophetic "interpretations" in a factual manner of prophetic scriptures. These are in the writings of Dr. Bill Deagle, "Clay and Iron: Answers to the Endtime Puzzle". HAS ANYONE ELSE seen and read this work ? I guess you would understand my first question, if you had read this book (Clay and Iron).

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Matthew 24,, the Gospels were given primarially to the Jew.....
Matthew 24 was to instruct the Jew in the tribulation period.

the "some taken some left" verses Matthew 24:40,41 is at the end of the 7 year trib period where the evil people are removed from the Earth at the time of Jesus 2nd coming so that only the righteous will enter the 1000 year kingdom

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I just posted the story about the Plot To Kill Obama And Blow Up D.C. Subway Shocks US Allies. Immediately, I began to receive comments that you cannot believe this source. Yet, these very same people will sit and listen to Fox News as if their news came right out of Heaven itself.

Listen, people, it is all propaganda with just a tad of truth to slip into the minds of people who would rather be spoon fed then consider the source. Is the story even feasible, probable and do-able? Then compare it all to the times we live and the real evidence coming down from Heaven.

To sit back, comfortable in your old Rapture Rocker and accept the source that taught you that you had nothing to really worry about because you were going to be taken out of this old world before the real SHTF is about as crazy as you sitting in that old rocker on your porch as the waters have already soaked the floor boards and the fires from heaven in the form of Giant Hail Stones come crashing down upon your roof. Are you just going to sit there and insist it is not taking place?

Wouldn't it be best to take the time to search for the Biblical clues given to this topic. I took the time and listened to "The Pre-Wrath Rapture - The Rapture Puzzle Solved with Matthew 24. It covered all the views, the reason for those views and then takes you back to what the apostles themselves told to the early church that had gotten very anxious, believing the coming of the Lord had happened and they had missed the Rapture.

You'll be amazed at how easily this teaching is understood by hearing all of the evidence given.

Then you can decide for yourselves what is the real scoop on this event called The Rapture.

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This subject of a pre-wrath Rapture continues to be belittled by the so called pre-7 year Tribulation Rapture experts that speak about "hermeneutic" needing to be used in determining the meaning of scriptures.

Well, lookee here.....what do you see being said about making an accurate determination on the subject? I see the term "Hermeneutic" including 5 principles that should teach the truth about the pre-Tribulation . Rapture lie.

This particular lesson has been on this site since MAY, 2011. I understand that Steven has begged some of you to, at least, take the time to look at it. Why would he beg you? Because he actually cares enough about others to present them with the same truth that he, I and many others have now found out is exactly as the Bible teaches us. It is a Rapture that follows the Resurrection of the Dead. So, is God lying in His Own Word? Or could the preachers and ex-preaches be lying to you because they won't bother looking at any evidence but their own writings.

I think I know the problem:

1. It spoils that dream world of escaping hard-ship and tribulation of Great Tribulation coming upon the earth, doesn't it? You are forced with the reality of taking up His Cross and finishing the race which keeps right on going until He chooses to have His Elect gathered from the four corners of the earth. (Yep! There are four corners....no round silo has ever had corners and I've seen quite a few)The Earth being a globe happens to be another lie. Lies, Lies, Lies since the beginning of Time. How else could the Elite have prepared the earth for what is about to come upon it very soon?

2. The next thing is an issue of Pride. Would you rather suffer the Fall that comes from having great Pride that keeps you from admitting that you may have been wrong, just as we have had to admit the very same thing? Only a prideful, arrogant man would insist on following a prideful, arrogant teacher.

3. And, apparently there are many of you that are not reading the Bible for yourself or taking advantage of good solid teaching on the subject.

In this video, we are told in order to understand the Bible correctly we must understand the hermeneutic, Here are 5 principles:

1. Understand the author/author's meaning

2. We want to understand the meaning of the text

3. Always compare scripture with other context.

4. Determine the Literal references of figures of speech that provide comparison, substitution and amplification.

5. Recognize the near/far implications in prophetic passages.

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