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10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
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Luke 21:25-28

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
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What are the Clouds of Heaven?

The common Christian attitude: So who cares?



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We have covered the biological entities called UFO’s but we have not addressed the Lying signs and wonders of the great deception. Nut and bolt man made UFO’s! They are also real!

Lying Signs and Wonders:



The Apostle Paul mentions in 2Thess2:7. a “Mystery of Iniquity” which is a plan carried out all through the history of mankind. This plan is mentioned by Satan himself in the famous Five I wills of Isaiah 14. This is a specific five-point plan to copy and overlay everything God would do, in the same but opposite fashion.

One of the five points to this plan is in Verse 14,

“I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;”

Another rendering of this text can read,

“I will elevate myself above the glory of the clouds.”

Understanding just what the clouds really are gives a whole new dimension to this verse! Defined by the Bible itself, we can now see more than the image of Satan simply rising into the sky to take on God.

This is a plan to explain away and replace the very presence of God as He appeared in the clouds of heaven told in the scriptures. By replacing this biological entity with a mechanical nut and bolt UFO he replaces God’s glory with his own scenario of “Aliens” come to help Mankind into the “New Age” with a technology which man himself can understand and accomplish on his own..

Consider this next scripture in context; it describes events surrounding the appearance of the Antichrist at the end times.

II Th 2:9 “Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,”[color]

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With this understanding we can expect strange appearances from the skies bearing an ethical or moral message. One that is contrary to the God of the Bible and points to the coming Antichrist!. I do not know of any other two fold event that could sound more like the sightings and reported messages of UFO’S and Aliens!

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Rev 13:2 “ ... and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.”

Modern man has made science his unquestionable religion.

The subtlest form of power today would be that of Technology. But a technology obtained through occult practices. Now let’s take this out of conjecture and see if there are any scriptures that would indicate this.

Jesus himself told us that in the last days prior to his return there would be certain events happening. One of them is the idea of the powers of heaven being shaken.

Luke 21:26 “Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.”

Traditionally, this has been understood to be the mention of some “heavenly earthquake”. This misconception is probably based on miss- understanding the significance of the word shaken. In it’s most general use it means to agitate. However it also has a meaning according to Thayer’s as being “cast down from one’s (happy and secure) state. This understanding opens up a whole new dimension to the text. To add to this controversy, the word for powers means miraculous power. The miraculous powers of heaven are being displaced, lowered from heaven to earth! From a secure place to one of instability in the hands of mortal man. An actual earthquake, in context is both illogical and isolated from all other events. When viewing this instead, as a displacement of knowledge, it fits like a puzzle piece with the rest of the story.

This rearrangement of heaven’s security and constant is mentioned in another place in the Bible

“At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, "Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens." Hebrews 12:26 (NIV)

The writer of Hebrews reminds the reader about the importance of listening to God. In context he goes on to say that this time the Lord would not only shake the earth but heaven also. This “shaking up” would be in a very physical way. It would be a rearrangement of the very heavens, A result perhaps of an intrusion and disruption of the space-time continuum! By Satan imparting to man a physics of the eternal realm not meant for him in his fallen state, abuse would be the only outcome.

This form of knowledge would be considered “secret” knowledge, which is the definition for the Occult. It may be why in the very end of all things a “New heaven and New earth are seen by John in the Revelation given by Jesus. Rev 21:1 “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;”

The Fallen Angels that interbred with the human race before the flood were further mentioned in the Book of Enoch 63:1 and 64:6, “These are the angels who have descended from heaven to earth, and have revealed secrets to the sons of men, and have seduced the sons of men to the commission of sin...A commandment has gone forth from the Lord against those who dwell on the earth., that their end may be; for they know every secret of the angels.”

As it was in the days of Noah, so also shall be the coming of the Son of man be...

If Fallen Angels came down and dwelt among humans, they would certainly want their cake and eat it too. Not too concerned about rule breaking, they would provide themselves with all the conveniences of home. These “secrets” would be the physics and technology that would make their stay on earth comfortable. When the great flood came upon the earth, it destroyed the entire world along with these secrets. Well...at least the ability to apply the technology was lost. The theories probably were not.

Babel wasn’t just a tower.



560 years after the flood, the next great act of rebellion happened. The Tower of Babel. Even with such a long period of time, people were still living to a ripe old age of about 600 years. The Babel event would have been only one generation from the pre-flood era. Babel was not about trying to climb up to pull God down from heaven. It was not a space program as Zecharia Sitchin claims.. It was about preserving what was remembered of the secrets of heaven, including how to travel it!


In Daniel 8:23 a man would come who would understand a workable knowledge of the occult. His agenda would be to both restore the people, (the son’s of god) and the technology from before the flood. His group would become the prophesied ones by Amos who would “dig into hell, and climb into heaven. But that is another story. You can read about the Nazi developement of UFO's obtained through Occult means. You can also understand this connection with events that are already past history and fulfills what many are waiting for as future prophecy. It is truly beyond Science Fiction and even more amazing, scriptural!



Conclusion to the “ Clouds of Heaven”.

Well, we have seen conclusively by the Bible what God’s choice and method of traveling between the eternal into the linear dimension consists of. An order of angel that even other angels use as a vehicle. It sounds strange but it is what the Bible proclaims. This amazing perspective has logic and consistency to an over all story. It provides very relative answers for questions that need a sound Biblical answer for today. It has a proper breakdown and application according to all the rules of interpretation.

The importance of knowing what the clouds of heaven are and are not, are told by the warnings in the Bible. There would be "Lying signs and wonders", in the form of manufactured technology. A craft created in part, to be an imitation that replaces the very presence and existence of God. " Fallen Angels in “disguise as " Aliens" bearing their contrary message of hope and promise of a "New Age" for mankind. The ultimate goal for Satan using the UFO is to be like God and be worshiped as God.

Rev 13:8 “ And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

Fortunately, the Bible has given us more than just a fluffy chunk of water vapor to defend our faith.



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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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