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"MUST READ!! Love Story in the Sky!! 7 of 8 steps completed since February 25, 2012!! Next step is the Rapture!!"


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Dear Doves,



This article is an absolute MUST READ!!



A Love Story, OUR Love Story, is being written in the sky by our Groom as we speak!! 7 of 8 steps in the Jewish Wedding Tradition have now been symbolically completed in the sky above us since February 25, 2012. The 8th and Final Step will be our Rapture, our marriage to the Ultimate Groom.



PLEASE, take the time to read the below to see the exciting details. Scripture is always the best place to start. Using the rule of “First Mention” in the Bible, the following is what God tells us to do with the stars, planets, Sun and the Moon:



Genesis 1:14 reads as follows: “And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years”. This “command” to study the sky for signs is repeated MANY times in the New Testament!!



In our Jewish Wedding Tradition “Love Story”, there will be four specific “characters” in the sky, each with their own specific purpose. I will first outline who they are and their role and then I will elaborate on each below:



- Venus as the Morning Star, our Groom (Jesus)!!



- Sun as the Father of the Groom (God)



- Jupiter as the Father of the Bride (the Holy Spirit)



- Moon as the Bride (the True Church)




Before moving on, please take an extra moment to re-read the above list and REALLY let the “characters” absorb in your mind before I explain why each “character” makes perfect sense. I find that it is usually better when one pre-visualizes there own reasons for such symbolism, which may add to those I listed below (or simply perhaps confirm the list below).


Venus as the Morning Star, our Groom (Jesus)



Jesus refers to Himself as the morning star (while it is also true that Satan had been called the morning star, as per Isaiah, Isaiah explains that this title no longer applied to Satan after he fell):



Revelation 22:16 reads as follows: “I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”



This specific mention of Jesus as the morning star, Venus, in the Bible, has meant that, when something occurs with Venus, I sit up and take notice. This “characterization” was so important an observation that this formed a part of His very last words in the Bible. The very last chapter of the very last book to be specific!!



Sun as the Father of the Groom (God)



The Sun is often referred to as representing God the Father. It is so bright that one cannot stare at it without losing their sight. In comparison, God told Moses that looking on His full glory would cause instant death.

No life on this planet would exist without the Sun, just like it wouldn’t exist without God (sorry evolutionists). The Sun supplies us with all of our energy. When we burn wood, we are burning stored sunlight. When we start our cars, we are burning stored sunlight.

The power of the Sun is beyond comprehension. Similarly, the awesome power of its creator, GOD, the Father of the Groom, is also beyond comprehension!!



Jupiter as the Father of the Bride (the Holy Spirit)



Jupiter is known as the God planet due to being the biggest of all the planets. Its size completely dwarfs the earths. It is also one of the most visible of the planets from earth, easily visible with the naked eye. However, this planet also serves another purpose. Scientists have noticed that it frequently intercepts hurtling objects from space that could have later impacted the earth and destroyed all life, thereby protecting all of us. This protection from flying debris is due to its immense gravity from its massive size, attracting these rogue objects like metal to a magnet. In other words, similar to the Holy Spirit, Jupiter serves as our quiet, but extremely powerful, protector!!



Since the Sun already represents the Father of the Groom (God) and Venus already represents the Groom (Jesus), it would make sense to “characterize” the second biggest object in our solar system as the Father of the Bride (the Holy Spirit). As outlined above, the similarities are stunning.



But there is another similarity that makes the Holy Spirit similar to “the Father of the Bride”!! Notice that, in the New Testament, we are considered the Bride of Christ. However, He hasn’t sent for us yet and we are still waiting to go to our new home, travelling eagerly away from our “birth home, earth”. In Jewish Tradition, the Father of the Bride continues to look after his daughter until the Groom calls for her. In a direct analogy, the Father of the Bride was literally sent to us at the first Pentecost after Christ died to do just that!! The Holy Spirit has been looking after us ever since, just like a loving and doting Father of the Bride would take great pride in doing for His Daughter. Again, this fits perfectly!!



Moon as the Bride (the True Church)



Like the Moon, we are a large part of the operation and sustainability of the earth!! AND YET, the earth is not AT ALL our home. Instead, we are visitors here on earth, but yet linked to the earth, waiting to be called to our eternal and true home with our precious Groom, Jesus!!



Like the Moon reflects the glory of the Sun, we the Bride merely reflect the glory of the Trinity, and Jesus in particular. Some reflect the Lord’s grace to a great extent (Full Moon), while some barely reflect His grace at all (New Moon), but yet we still share our salvation through the Only One Who Saves via Grace thru Faith alone.



Again, before moving on, please take another few extra moment to REALLY let the above “characters” absorb in your mind. The Jewish Wedding Tradition events that are about to unfold below depend on you understanding the precise roles each of these four “characters” will play (and symbolize)!!



COMPARISON TO JEWISH WEDDING TRADITION



During the course of this article, I will outline various quotes from the following Jewish source to show the strict adherence these celestial events as outlined below are being used to perfectly symbolize Jewish Wedding Tradition. Quotes from the following article will later be shown in black font:



http://www.bje.org.au/learning/lifecycle/marriage.html



Now, let us look to see what the sky is specifically telling us (as we are instructed to do in the Bible). However, before we do, it is important to emphasize that this analysis is Bible-based Astronomy, which has EVERYTHING to do with God!! This is NOT Astrology, which has NOTHING to do with God and is an abomination to God:

Step 1 of 8: February 25, 2012 - The Groom meets with the Father of the Bride and the Bride, wherein all three parties agree to a marriage “in principle”



CELESTIAL EVENT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Venus_Jupiter_Mercury_conjunction



CELESTIAL DESCRIPTION (from above link): “The 2012 Venus Jupiter Moon conjunction was an astrological conjunction that occurred on February 25, 2012 between the Moon, Venus and Jupiter, forming a triple conjunction. It was observed in the western sky at sunset globally.”



APPLICABLE SYMBOLIC CHARACTERS INVOLVED: Moon = the Bride, Venus = the Groom, Jupiter = the Father of the Bride



INTERPRETATION: The Groom meets with both the Father of the Bride and the Bride at the same time to meet for compatibility. Eventually, after meeting, all parties present mutually agree to a marriage “in principle”. In Jewish Tradition, the Bride is able to reject the proposal at this point. Obviously, we, the Bride, whole heartedly accept the Lord’s marriage proposal.



From Jewish article: “The very first stage of a traditional Jewish marriage is the shidduch, or matchmaking. In this manner, the process of finding a partner is not haphazard or based on purely external aspects. Rather, a close friend or relative of the young man or woman, who knows someone that they feel may be a compatible partner, suggests that they meet. The purpose of the meeting is for the prospective bride and groom to determine if they are indeed compatible”



Step 2 of 8: March 13, 2012 - The Groom once again meets with the Father of the Bride, this time to finalize the marriage contract



CELESTIAL EVENT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Venus_Jupiter_Mercury_conjunction



CELESTIAL DESCRIPTION (from above link): “On March 13, 2012, Venus and Jupiter reentered conjunction and 5 celestial signs were observable, all around sunset local time, globally.”



APPLICABLE SYMBOLIC CHARACTERS INVOLVED: Venus = the Groom, Jupiter = the Father of the Bride, 5 other celestial signs = small reception



INTERPRETATION: With all parties present agreeing to the marriage “in principle” on February 25, 2012, the Bride leaves it to the Groom and her Father to discuss specifics of the marriage contract. To do this, the Groom meets once again with the Father of the Bride (“reentered conjunction” , but this time without the Bride, and the marriage contract is formalized and signed. We, the Bride, are now officially betrothed to Jesus in marriage (getting excited yet?). A small reception is then gathered together in order announce the occasion, which is, amazingly, perfectly represented in the skies by the outstanding and noteworthy presence of “5 celestial signs being observable” at the EXACT same time (known in Yiddish as a vort)!!



From Jewish article: “When the families have met, and the young couple has decided to marry, the families usually announce the occasion with a small reception, known in Yiddish as a vort. Some families sign a contract, the tenaim (conditions) that delineates the obligations of each side regarding the wedding and setting its final date. The tenaim symbolise the groom’s commitment to fulfil the promise to marry his bride. They are just as binding as the marriage contract itself, so they are usually signed before the ceremony.”



Step 3 of 8: May 20, 2012 - The Father of the Groom ensures all is prepared to His satisfaction before telling His Son to “go get His Bride”



CELESTIAL EVENT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_May_20,_2012



CELESTIAL DESCRIPTION (from above link): “An annular solar eclipse took place on May 20, 2012 with a magnitude of 0.9439. An annular solar eclipse occurs when the Moon's apparent diameter is smaller than the Sun, causing the Sun to look like a ring, blocking most of the Sun's light. An annular eclipse appears as a partial eclipse over a region thousands of kilometres wide. This is also known as Ring of Fire.”



APPLICABLE SYMBOLIC CHARACTERS INVOLVED: Moon = the Bride, Sun = the Father of the Groom (our Father-“in-Law”



INTERPRETATION: The Father of the Groom ensures that all is prepared to His satisfaction before He tells His Son to “go get His Bride”. In Jewish tradition, the father makes sure all preparations are complete and adequate before “giving the order”!! One of the things He does is to make sure the Bride is fully prepared and ready to marry His Son. She meets with the Father of the Groom’s expectations!! How does the Groom find out? The shining ring in the sky on May 20th symbolically tells the Son that all went well and the He will soon give permission for Him to call His Bride!!



ADDITIONAL INTERPRETATION: A ring of commitment is a major event in any Bride’s life, signifying in a material way to the world that she is committing herself to one man. This is also particularly important in Jewish Marriage Tradition. According to Jewish tradition, this wedding / betrothal ring should be of great worth, reflecting just how much the Groom values His Bride. THIS IS JUST TOO PERFECT!! Given that the Sun and the Moon are both absolutely vital to life continuing on earth, there is nothing more valuable to the world than the Sun and the Moon!! In other words, the “Ring of Fire”, our Wedding Ring, symbolizes a ring of infinite value.



Step 4 of 8: June 4, 2012 - The Father of the Groom sends out a final invitation to His Chosen Guests



CELESTIAL EVENT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2012_lunar_eclipse



CELESTIAL DESCRIPTION (from above link): “A partial lunar eclipse took place on June 4, 2012. The moon was about one third covered by the Earth's northern umbral shadow at maximum eclipse. The portion of the moon inside the umbral shadow was illuminated by sunlight refracted through the Earth's atmosphere, thus much dimmer, and having a reddish hue.”

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APPLICABLE SYMBOLIC CHARACTERS INVOLVED: Moon = the Bride, Sun = the Father of the Groom, Earth = His Chosen Guests, the Jews



INTERPRETATION: The Father of the Groom makes one last appeal to the Jews to come to the ceremony. His invitation is rejected, just like His Son had been rejected by the Jews all those centuries ago. However, 1/3rd will later change their mind, which is in the Biblical description that only 1/3rd of the Jews will heed the warning of the Lord about the coming wrath of the Anti-Christ and to flee to safety in the wilderness (Petra), away from the Anti-Christ’s grip of terror. That fact that this was a lunar eclipse is perfectly appropriate as lunar eclipses are considered to be specific warnings to the Jews, whereas solar eclipses are considered to be specific warnings for the Gentiles. However, not only was this event a Lunar Eclipse, but it was also a “1/3rd” Lunar Eclipse, again a PERFECT SYMBOL of what is about to occur in Israel!!



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CELESTIAL EVENT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_of_Venus,_2012



CELESTIAL DESCRIPTION (from above link): “The 2012 Transit of Venus, when the planet Venus appeared as a small, dark disk moving across the face of the Sun, began at 22:09 UTC on 5 June 2012, and finished at 04:49 UTC on 6 June.”



APPLICABLE SYMBOLIC CHARACTERS INVOLVED: Sun = the Father of the Groom, Venus = the Groom



INTERPRETATION: Ensuring that everything for the upcoming marriage of His Son is absolutely perfect, the Father of the Groom tells His Son to leave His right side and get His Bride. From the “Sun’s perspective”, that is EXACTLY what happened that day (it travelled from the Sun’s right side to its left side)!! Notice that this event is also exactly 21 days inclusive to June 25th / 26th; wherein this is a similar time span to the last war in heaven mentioned in the Book of Daniel (more on June 25th later)!! However, there is a LOT more to this and it has all been previously described in great detail in the following article:

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/mathman612-1.htm



Step 6 of 8: June 17, 2012 - The Groom is seen approaching the Bride and the Father of the Groom from a distance



CELESTIAL EVENT: http://earthsky.org/tonight/moon-and-jupiter-pair-up-before-sunrise-june-17

CELESTIAL DESCRIPTION (from above link): “Moon and Jupiter close together before sunrise June 17”



APPLICABLE SYMBOLIC CHARACTERS INVOLVED: Moon = the Bride, Jupiter = the Father of the Bride, Venus = the Groom



INTERPRETATION: While the Father of the Bride is standing with His Daughter, the Groom approaches them from a short distance away. Both the Groom and the Bride feel great excitement as they know their day will soon arrive!!

Step 7 of 8: June 18, 2012 - The Bride visits the Groom for the last time before the actual wedding ceremony while her Father supervises the meeting



CELESTIAL EVENT: http://earthsky.org/tonight/moon-venus-below-jupiter-before-sunrise-june-18

CELESTIAL DESCRIPTION (from above link): “Moon, Venus below Jupiter before sunrise June 18”



APPLICABLE SYMBOLIC CHARACTERS INVOLVED: Moon = the Bride, Jupiter = the Father of the Bride, Venus = the Groom



INTERPRETATION: The Bride visits the Groom for the last time before the actual wedding ceremony while her Father supervises the meeting. According to Jewish Tradition, this will be the last time the Bride sees her Groom prior to the actual wedding. However, as is also strict Jewish tradition, she is still closely supervised by her Father during the meeting!!

Step 8 of 8: ???? – Soon after, the Groom comes back, announcing His arrival with a Trumpet Blast, signaling that He has come to finally marry us, His Bride, in the Rapture!!



The first seven steps illustrated above shows us just how soon it will be before the Groom finally has the Trumpet Player call for us, His Bride, to meet Him in the sky for our final journey home to be married!! FINALLY, we will be able to leave this temporary home in order to be married to the One we have so longed to be with.



In other words: The Rapture is the very next, eighth and final step!! Interestingly, eight is the number of New Beginnings, and WHAT A NEW BEGINNING IT WILL BE!!



BUT WAIT, THERE’S EVEN MORE…



ADDITIONAL IMPORTANT OBSERVATIONS SHOWING INCREDIBLE ADHERENCE TO THE JEWISH TRADITION



There are still some other IMPORTANT SYMBOLIC SIMILARITIES to the Jewish Marriage Process that were strictly followed in the above symbolism in the sky that you simply must read about:



From Jewish article: “According to Jewish law, physical contact is not allowed between a man and a woman until they are married (except for certain close relatives), and they may not be alone together in a closed room or secluded area. This helps to ensure that one’s choice of partner will be based on intellect and emotion and not on physical desire alone.”



Did you notice, in all of the above seven steps completed above, that Venus, representing the “man”, and the Moon, representing the “woman”, were NEVER alone together without Jupiter, the “father of the woman”, being ever present?? How awesome is that?



From Jewish article: “Prior to the wedding day, the bride is required to visit the mikveh, the ritual bath, and immerse herself, to ensure a purified spiritual state as she prepares herself for married life. The bride must show proof of having visited the mikveh before she is eligible to sign the marriage contract.”



Only those who have washed themselves in the blood of Christ and accepted His Sacrifice for our sins will be considered a part of the Bride, our debt completely paid in full by our Groom, making us completely eligible with proof of being able to sign the marriage contract!! If you haven’t already, please make sure this vital step has been completed NOW!!! It is almost too late to avoid the Great Tribulation!! Once the Rapture occurs, you are stuck for another 1260+ days of incredible despair and persecution (however, chances are you will be beheaded WAY before making it even close to that long – just make sure you never take the Mark of the Beast)!!



From Jewish article: “One week before the wedding the bride and groom, the chatan and kallah stop seeing each other in order to enhance the joy of their wedding through their separation.”



THIS IS THE MOST EXCITING PART OF THIS WHOLE ARTICLE!!! Did you notice in Step 7 that Venus, representing the Groom, and the Moon, representing the Bride, are very close to each other for one last meeting, but yet still under complete supervision from Jupiter, representing the Father of the Bride? Could this symbolically represent the VERY LAST MEETING before the one week separation as is customary in Jewish Wedding Tradition!! That is, was the June 18th meeting symbolic of our very final meeting with the Groom prior to us being reunited with Him forever and ever in our wedding to the Lord Himself? If so, did you notice that one week from June 18th is just around the corner? And, IF SO, under Jewish Tradition, it is up to you to make yourself ready to be the proper Bride, ready to receive her Groom in marriage!!!! Are you absolutely SURE you are ready? You had better make sure!!



http://www.thefinal7yearsareherenow.com/docs/documents/x1o451bm.html



SIDE NOTE: IF June 25th turns out to be “our wedding day”, look who “just happens” to be visiting Israel on that exact same day (Putin’s very first visit to Israel in SEVEN YEARS!!). Certainly not a pleasant start to those left behind, especially the Jews, ESPECIALLY given the HUGE role Russia will play in end-time prophecy as outlined Ezekiel 38 / 39!!



http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/112409/



FINAL APPEAL: I normally would never ask this of you all, but IF you found the above inspiring and ONLY IF you feel inspired to do so, please write in to Five Doves with your thoughts AND a link to this article. The more this article is referred to and linked, the great the chances of those later left behind coming across this article and being able to understand God’s Ultimate Control!!



Seriously, this couldn't be written any better for us if we had wanted it to. MARANATHA!! Surely our redemption draws EXTREMELY near!! The SKY SCREAMS THAT IT IS SOON!!!!!!



YbiC, MathMan



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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/mathman620.htm

Dear John, MathMan and all:

First, MathMan, I sincerely commend you for an outstanding piece of scholarship.

Going forward - Jesus gave us a formula for discipleship: "baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost" and then "teaching them to observe all that I have commanded." As many of you know, this has been badly twisted in two directions: 1) you can't be saved unless you are immersed in water (a lie) and 2) water baptism is unnecessary (another lie).

This may come into focus with MathMan's observation concerning the mikveh. MathMan quoted:

“Prior to the wedding day, the bride is required to visit the mikveh, the ritual bath, and immerse herself, to ensure a purified spiritual state as she prepares herself for married life. The bride must show proof of having visited the mikveh before she is eligible to sign the marriage contract.”

We've discussed before whether all in the Church are in the Bride, and it may be that those who choose salvation but opt out of discipleship, or those who choose to NOT "visit the mikveh" DISQUALIFY THEMSELVES from being the Bride.

I won't be dogmatic; it's not my job. But I would strongly suggest that any of you who have not been baptized do a quick Bible study on it and proceed accordingly.

Hope to see you all very, very soon.

Best,

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Dear Mathman and Doves,

All I can say is AMAZING! Mathman's article yesterday titled; Love Story in the Sky was most certainly
inspired by the Holy Spirit. As a believer in the 2008-2015 timeline, this letter seemingly completes the symphony.

It is finished. We now can hear the entire piece. It's logic and analogous cadence is like a beautifully composed
symphony that has come to a crescendo. All we now await is the conductors final movement that will astound the world
with that final stanza that has never, nor will ever be heard again. Mathman, thank you for an incredible " story"
that will almost certainly be completed in days. I'm in. While we cannot be 100% that this is really "it", we have never been closer
have we ?

I have never understood Charity's "5,6,7, Jesus" Perhaps the 8 is now right before us.

Blessings to All,

Steve W.



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Hey Mathman,

You have done some awesome work in the past but I think you really out did yourself this time!!! I was very excited and on the edge of my seat while reading this post (below) and it made absolutely, perfect sense. Awesome, awesome job! I'm waiting with baited breath for the 25th/26th.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/mathman620.htm

God bless you for all your hard work and efforts! I look forward to meeting you and all my brothers and sisters on Five Doves, in the air. Let's do lunch sometime (soon, hopefully) at my mansion!! LOL

YsiC,
Barb

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After watching Messianic Rabbi Mark Bilitz signs in the Sun, Moon, and Stars on one day, and your information the next, I am ready for Home. Mathman, It was an excellent presentation. Compelling, and all I can say is, Even So Come Lord Jesus!!!! Thank you, Jimmy




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Beautiful MathMan!

I have tears in my eyes...thank you for the encouragement! I will keep looking up!

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Mathman and doves,


Regarding Mathmans article. http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/mathman620.htm


I read your article with much joy and excitement as what you presented seemed to be another piece of a puzzle that God has been leading me to through dreams and other sources.

You see I am given many dreams but most (99%) seem do deal with my personal walk and are filled with warnings and leadings. However, now and then I recieve a bigger dream that has nothing to do with my personal walk.

One is this... I was taken in my dream to space and was shown a constellation and although I know nothing about astronomy and constellations He seemed to be telling me that the answers are in the stars and constellations. Since that dream I have been to articles that teach the Hebraic names of the stars and that they are also God's way of giving us signs of things to come. After reading your article I ran across the youtube video below.


El Shaddai Ministries -
The Signs in the HeavensBegin about 46 minutes in to the video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g4ITwyVIhs&feature=youtu.be




The above video seems to also fit as a puzzle piece with what you wrote about.


Approximately a week ago I was given another dream. I was serving at a banquet or it felt more like a more like a wedding rehearsal dinner. As I was standing a pair of women came in dressed like southern belles complete with parasols that hid their identity. These women each were escorted by a man in uniform and as they passed by my attention was drawn down to their trouser legs and noticed they were two different colors, representing 2 different branches (of service). As they passed, out from among them came a young woman who was dancing between them and came out from them with a net and as she passed by a table she caught up in her net a man from a table. This man seemed to be crippled, no hands or feet, yet he was dancing with her in her net and there was such joy and rejoicing on their faces. The dream ended there.


A few nights before fathers day I had another dream. In the dream my dad, who lives, told me he wanted me to come home and then a second a bigger representation of my dad told me he was looking forward to me coming home and living with HIM. The first was fulfilled on Fathers day when my dad made it known he wanted me to be home in July as they were planning a celebration of life party on my departed mothers birthday. The second, I believe was from my Heavenly father as I know my earthly dad would never ask me to live with him. As the dream ended, the Heavenly father looked to another and said very clearly 9 1 6. I said as the dream faded, but Lord, thats the wrong area code I'm in...


The next day on Doves there was a letter about Rosh HaShanah being a watch date of 9/16. And then I was led to something else... the number one has a meaning of unity or to unite... 9 is judgement and 6 is the number of man, and it also seemed to say The Lord is going to unite his judgement and man or the nations. it is also interesting that that is the beginning of a new Jewish year. This also seems to play out with what I ran into from the Bible codes below.


Please also see this video about Bible codes and the Mayan calendar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqUNaBeU8fE&feature=youtu.be





It seems that we are all given pieces of a larger picture and the puzzle is becoming clearer very rapidly.


Blessings,
YBIC


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Hello Doves,

This is an add on to my prior post...

3 weeks ago I had a dream where I was trying to reach a friend I haven't seen for a while. In my search I crossed a street and headed down a block and ran into my mother, grandmother and grandfather(all deceased) along with someone who looked like my dad that i identify as my heavenly dad. As we walked down the street my dad was shining a flashlight into a policeman's eyes. The man looked dazed and like he was blinded to what was happening. I told my family that I needed to reach my friend that she was supposed to be there in 10 min. They told me to hurry as there is not much time left. I turned around and walked around a corner and ran into my friend coming out of a building in disguise. I approached her and handed her a newspaper and asked her even or odd, she opened the paper and turned to a page and said she was waiting and looking for an announcement. End of dream I was finally able to get a message to my friend last Friday but she doesn't want to hear from me. I feel it important that she needs to be contacted (she is a strong believer). The dream said a few times a time of 10 min. I haven't been able to pinpoint anything except maybe it means a short time and this. My first contact was the 15th, 10 days later is the 25th...coincidence?

One more... I mentioned in the rehearsal dinner the two unidentified ladies and the 2 branches. I was out walking and listening and singing to The Lord when a thought broke through... I asked him who the ladies were and into my mind is this...they are not the 2 branches like Israel and the Church... they are The dead in Christ and we who are alive and remain...2 separate groups (of course I am in no way stating these as fact, just my impressions)

1Thessalonians 4
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.



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Dear MathMan


your post http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/mathman620.htm definitely caught my attention!


Let's not forget that June 25. is exactly 1335 days since the start of Ron Reeses famous 2008-2015 timeline:


I found 3 completely independent witnesses promoting the 2008-2015 timeline (exact day to the day!):
- http://www.thefinal7yearsareherenow.com/
- http://www.markbeast.com/70jubilees/70Sevens.pdf
- http://www.youtube.com/user/godshealer7


Start = Oct. 29. 2008
Middle = April 11. 2012
?Rapture? = Start + 1335 days = June 25. 2012
End = September 23. 2015 (Day of Atonement)


Daniel 12:12
Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the
thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.


Watch & Pray!
Maranatha!
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Dear John and all Doves (& all lurkers),

It has been a while since I have posted but I read 5 Doves (normally) 6 out of 7 days and have for many years now. What joy!

I have to say to Mathman that whenever I see that he has sent in another post, I always read it. He could title the post "Why I always eat Oreo cookies & have chocolate milk before I read my Bible" and I would certainly read that post. In one way I guess I am hooked on Mathman.

The "Love Story" post was wonderful and clearly an important article. It is clear and concise: easily understood. The Jewish traditions leading up to marriage are very important to us as members of the Church of Jesus the Messiah. To see all this reflected in the stars is just confirmation. Actually that is backwards: the traditions are a reflection of God's story in the "stars". It is exciting. Thank you so much John Tng for continuing this website. We all appreciate you so much. The link to Mathman's post about the love story:

Here at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/mathman620.htm


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THE MESSAGE IS NOW OUT, THANKS TO SO MANY OF YOU!!!! MAY THE “LOVE STORY IN THE SKY” BE OUR FINAL BOARDING CALL FOR OUR SOON FLIGHT HOME!!!!



http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/mathman620.htm



There were 15 responses in total received yesterday on this Love Story on www.fivedoves.com!! Seems to be a record since I’ve joined Five Doves back in November 2011 (but of course, I did specifically ask for a reply to help spread the message, so it doesn’t truly count)!!



Andrea: In the following post, you asked an excellent question:



http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/andrea621.htm



Help Request: Andrea asked whether there were any planetary conjunctions expected shortly after June 25 / 26 that could possibly signal a wedding ceremony having taken place. I remember PERHAPS reading that there will be a planetary conjunction of some sort in early July that will form a cross shape of some sort. However, when I searched for it, I couldn’t find any information on this on the internet. Does anyone else here recall a possible “cross conjunction” in early July that they could provide a link for? If so, please post any pertinent information ASAP as this could very well be significant. Also, it would be very interesting if a meteor shower was scheduled to occur after any such “cross conjunction” (if such conjunction even exists), perhaps being symbolic of confetti being tossed on the Bride and Groom as we leave the ceremony (yes, I have a romantic side, it is just hidden under the mathJ)!!



Jean S: Very interesting and encouraging subsequent analysis:



http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/jeans621-1.htm



Brad: Interesting astronomy dreams you have been experiencing!!



http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/brad621-1.htm



However, ALL responses were excellent and well appreciated!!



FYI, please note that the “Love Story in the Sky” was also posted on RITAN (thanks to Austin) and is getting good responses and view counts:



http://raptureintheairnow.com/our-mathematical-god-witness-of-the-stars/look-up-very-close



MORE SUBSEQUENT ANALYSIS: Here are a few more interesting notes on June 25th for your information:



1) Obama will be in Boston on June 25th: Boston is known as the “Beacon on the Hill”, as its founders felt that it was in a special covenant with Jesus at its formation. They called themselves a “Beacon on the hill” as they wanted to be a bastion representing the Lord’s glory to the world (they later were referred to as the Puritans). In other words, Boston is conceivably the very first original “Holy Place” for the New Covenant with Jesus in North America!!
http://newomenforchange.org/2012/06/18/president-obama-will-be-in-boston-for-3-events-on-monday-june-25/



2) Putin will be in Israel on June 25th: Israel, of course, is the only nation in covenant with the Father. In other words, Israel is the “Holy Place” for the Old Covenant in all informed minds (secular revisionists would hate this statement and protest furiously)!!
http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/putin-visit-to-israel-set-for-june-25-is-there-a-prophetic-significance/



3) The Supreme Court will make its ruling on Obama-care on June 25th: A positive decision on the health care act would clear the path for the Number of the Beast, as the RFD implementation section in this legislation is clearly “imbedded” for the left behind’s soon tagging!! This is a VERY important piece of legislation to the Anti-Christ and will be a big deal to Obama whether it is passed OR rejected by the Supreme Court!! http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-21/health-care-case-isnt-among-todays-high-court-rulings



I find it extremely interesting that the two most powerful men on the planet, with 8,000 and 10,000 nuclear weapons respectively at their disposal, “just happen” to be standing in the two “Holy Places” on June 25th, one in Boston and the other in Israel. At the exact same time, a decision is being made on one of the most Marxist legislation pieces in U.S. history!! It also coincides with the END POINT of the seven day absence from June 18th as per the “Love Story in the Sky”!! Just coincidence? Perhaps, but we will certainly soon find out!!



THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL OF YOUR WONDERFUL RESPONSES!! I am glad so many enjoyed the “Love Story in the Sky” as much as I enjoyed putting it together!! It truly seemed to be revealed to me as I was typing. I was really not sure at all where it would end when I started this research, but was delighted at the end to see its match to a beautiful Jewish romance!!



MARANATHA!! Surely our redemption draws EXTREMELY near!! EVEN THE SKY SCREAMS IT!!



YbiC, MathMan



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Steve, I just sent this to Five Doves and wanted to share it with you too =)



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I was very excited when I read your post. I have always believed that whenever the rapture occurs there must be some sign of it in the scriptures to point to it as a future event...so I began to search. Well, being this is now the Fourth biblical month, that was where I began my search. What I came across was amazing. June 25-26th is the fifth day of the fourth month and here is what I found in the scriptures regarding that day:


Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God. In the fifth day of the month, which was the fifth year of king Jehoiachin's captivity, The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him. And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings... ( Ezekiel 1:1-6 ) *I highly recommend continued reading through this chapter but am cutting it here for sake of space.*


This bears a striking resemblence to Revelation 4, beginning with the open door in heaven, the rapture, seeing God and His thrown followed a few verses later (same chapter) by the four creatures...

Now, not that it is here nor there but this also plays out just like a rapture dream I had in the mid 90's which took me straight up to a billowing cloud that had lightening and thunder. I knew that God was just on the other side of that cloud. In that I also saw fire balls hurdling through space toward the earth as judgment. I felt so bad for those left. As they passed us, we could hear them like crackling fire and they flew passed us making a whizzing sound from their speed.

Well, it is interesting to note as well in my search that regarding the ninth of the fourth month, held verses of famine and war. This correlates to June 29-30th this year. Some have done day counts recently while searching out a generation and an end point. The day count I last heard had the beginning date of June 29-30th so this really piqued my interest. Regarding the ninth of the fourth month and additional verses, I would like to share these with you:

Regarding the Fourth Month:

Zec 8:19 "Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The fast of the FOURTH MONTH, and the fast of the fifth, and the fast of the seventh, and the fast of the tenth, shall be to the house of Judah joy and gladness, and cheerful feasts; therefore love the truth and peace."

Regarding the ninth of the fourth month:

Jer 39:2 "And in the eleventh year of Zedekiah, in the FOURTH MONTH, the NINTH DAY of the month, the city was broken up."

Jer 52:6 "And in the FOURTH MONTH, in the NINTH DAY of the month, the famine was sore in the city, so that there was no bread for the people of the land."

2 Kings 25:3 "And on the NINTH DAY of the FOURTH MONTH the famine prevailed in the city, and there was no bread for the people of the land."

Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it. In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst. They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again. - Amos 8:11-14

So, if this all plays out as we hope... I will be seeing all of you very soon. =)

Watching and Waiting,
Alison

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Dear Mathman, i just had to write and say what divine inspiration! Oh i will get myself ready and renew my self, again, and yet again!

Your work has been exemplary together with Ron Reese and i thank you most sincerely for helping me to keep my lamp trimmed, we do long for His Appearing and the Jewish Wedding is imminent! Oh let us be ready O Lord, that we may be found worthy to b invited to the wedding Supper of the Lamb.

Praise Hashem, and a mighty work you have done, well done brother.

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Dear Doves:

Mathman's post "Love Story in the Sky" was fascinating!
I loved it and congratulation for Mathman.
And here is a different version which is summarized from Calvin's posts.

1) As Nisan began, I watched with my own eyes a vertical line up of the Moon, Venus and Jupiter.
To me, Jupiter represents the King, so I thought it was a sign that Jesus as the King comes for His Bride.
It was Jupiter that those wisemen followed to worship the King.

2) Then Venus moved very close to the Pleiades on April 3.
Pleiades represents 7 Churches, and it was a sign that Jesus inspected them.

3) On May 5 there was the Supermoon which was bigger and brighter about 15% than normal.
It was a sign of the Chosen Bride who is about to be harvested.

4) We all know the Annular Eclipse occurred on May 20.
There is no question that it meant a marriage announcement.

5) There was a Lunar Eclipse on June 4.
It was a double sign of the coming Sudden Destruction and Harvest.
On that day, Nigeria plane crash(sudden destruction) which killed 153(harvest) people occurred.

6) There was the transit of Venus on June 5/6.
I agree with Mathman that it was a sign of Jesus leaving the Throne(Father) to get the Bride.
On that day, as I woke up, I received a strong word in my spirit "It has begun!"

7) Mercury is about to leave Gemini along with the new moon on June 21-23.
Mercury represents Gabriel, the Messenger and it's a sign that "Trumpet blowing" is about to happen.

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Dear Doves,



THE MESSAGE KEEPS GETTING OUT, THANKS TO SO MANY OF YOU!!!! MAY THE “LOVE STORY IN THE SKY” BE OUR FINAL BOARDING CALL FOR OUR SOON FLIGHT HOME!!!!



However, there is even more information on the Love Story in the Sky regarding signs “AFTER THE WEDDING”!!! I also reply to many comments from yesterday, so please read to the very end!!! The below builds on the following post (I will rely on you being familiar with this material as this post outlines the characters used below):



http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/mathman620.htm



Please note that some of the astronomical finds below were based on a newsletter from a site called www.biblicalastronomy.com, wherein a subscription is $12.00, as forwarded for my review by a fellow watcher. This newsletter helped answer the question from Andrea on whether there are signs in the sky for “AFTER THE WEDDING”. THERE ARE!!



POST-RAPTURE / WEDDING ASTRONOMICAL SIGNS



June 27, 2012 – Confetti thrown after the Wedding Ceremony, Sparks fly as the Sickle starts reaping



CELESTIAL EVENT: http://www.meteorblog.com/2009/05/next-meteor-shower-june-bootids/



CELESTIAL DESCRIPTION (from above link): “The next meteor shower is the June Bootids, this is the first summer shower. The Bootids meteor shower starts June 22nd and peaks on June 27th and ends July 2nd. The shower’s parent comet orbits our Sun once about every six years or so; the Comet 7P/Pons-Winnecke reached a point closest to our Sun in September of 2008 (known as the perihelion when a planet, comet or asteroid is closest to the Sun in its orbit).”



APPLICABLE SYMBOLIC CHARACTERS INVOLVED: Bootid Meteor Shower = Confetti / Sparks, Bootes the Herdsman = the Sickle of the Reaper



OBSERVATIONS: Notice that the parent comet that causes this meteor shower reached a point closest to our Sun in September of 2008. This is the Feast of Trumpets 2008 that started off the Final Seven Year Sabbatical as outlined so often in the 2008 – 2015 Timeline, with Obama confirming the Covenant with the Many not long after on October 29, 2008. Its orbit is 6 years long, wherein 6 is the number of man. Notice that the meteor shower ends on July 2nd, which is EXACTLY 1260 days after President Obama’s inauguration on January 20, 2009!!



INTERPRETATION: To us, His Wife, the meteor shower represents Confetti thrown in celebration of a wedding successfully completed. However, to the world below us, now in Great Tribulation, and especially to the soon-to-be Tribulation Saints, the possible interpretation is on the opposite side of happiness and joy!! Revelation 14 (v14-16) speaks of a sickle: “Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: For the time is come for Thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” In turn, the meteor shower, from the earth’s perspective, seems to come from the sickle of the reaper in the left hand of the Bootes the Herdsman!! Bootes is derived from a word meaning “He Cometh”!! So here we have sparks (meteors) flying from the sickle, perhaps symbolic of the Great Harvest of souls to come from the pursuit of the Tribulation Saints during the Great Tribulation. Another perfect analogy, this time a dual one, to go with so many now!!



June 29, 2012 – At the Reception, the Wedding Party forms a line to greet guests



CELESTIAL EVENT: http://www.tallahassee.com/article/20120531/LIVING02/205310329/New-dragon-dances-Venus-passes-sun



CELESTIAL DESCRIPTION (from above link): “On June 29, 2012, the Bright Star Aldebaran, Venus, Jupiter & the Pleiades Star Cluster form a line in the morning sky”



APPLICABLE SYMBOLIC CHARACTERS INVOLVED: Aldebaran = ??, Venus = the Husband, Jupiter = the Holy Spirit (Father of the Wife), Pleiades Star Cluster = the Seven Churches of Revelation



INTERPRETATION: Pleiades Star Cluster is commonly known to represent the Seven Churches of Revelation. Therefore, their alignment with our Husband and the Holy Spirit, the Father of the Wife, is breathtaking. The fact that they “form a line” is very reminiscent of a Wedding Party forming a reception line at the entrance of a Great Hall in order to greet guests as they arrive. This is the first time that the Pleiades Star Cluster is used and seems kind of like the Bridesmaids as well (at least for this analogy – just a thought).



July 12, 2012 – Our Husband specifically meets with His Wife’s Father before the dancing begins to thank Him for raising His Daughter with care in order to be His Wife



CELESTIAL EVENT: http://earthsky.org/tonight/greatest-illuminated-extent-for-venus-july-12-2012



CELESTIAL DESCRIPTION (from above link): “Venus shines at it brightest as the morning star for about a week or so during the middle part of July 2012 (peaks on July 12th). Venus shines close to the dazzling planet Jupiter on these July 2012 mornings, but it’ll easy be to tell which world is Venus and which is Jupiter. Venus is by far the brighter of the two. Venus ranks as the third-brightest celestial object in all the heavens and Jupiter the fourth-brightest, respectively, after the sun and moon.”



APPLICABLE SYMBOLIC CHARACTERS INVOLVED: Venus = the Husband, Jupiter = the Holy Spirit, the Father of the Wife



INTERPRETATION: Our Husband, standing with Our “Earthly” Father, the Holy Spirit, is at His very brightest as He celebrates His recent marriage. The Groom beams with happiness as He specifically meets with Him before the dancing begins in order to thank Him for raising His Daughter with such care in order to be His Wife.



ANOTHER INTERPRETATION: In stunning contrast, the world below us is in Great Tribulation now. The soon-to-be Tribulation Saints, left behind in terror, look up at the Morning Star’s intense brightness and mourn for what they could have had. To the earth, the moon is exactly half today, representing the other part of the new Church left behind that continues to be in Great Tribulation on earth. They will soon have to die a brutal death to join us, most likely by beheading as per Revelation. Notice that July 12th is (6+6+6) days after June 25th. Oh, brothers and sisters in Christ, do what you must to invite people on the ark before it is too late!!



July 15 – August 22, 2012 – The First Dance begins, the Bride first dances with Her Father and then is handed to Her new Husband, with the dancing then continuing through the night in celebration, the Bride mingling with the Guests as they wish Her the very best!!



CELESTIAL EVENT: http://home.mira.net/~reynella/skywatch/ssky.htm



CELESTIAL DESCRIPTION (from above link): “15 July 2012, Jupiter and crescent Moon close. 16 July 2012, Venus and crescent Moon close. 20 July 2012, Mercury and thin crescent Moon close. 24 July 2012, Mars and crescent Moon close. 12 August 2012, Jupiter and thin crescent Moon close. 14 August 2012, Venus and thin crescent Moon close. 16 August 2012, Thin crescent Moon and Mercury close. 22 August 2012, Crescent Moon, Saturn, Spica and Mars close”



APPLICABLE SYMBOLIC CHARACTERS INVOLVED: Crescent Moon = the Bride, Jupiter = the Father of the Bride, Venus = the Groom, Mercury, Mars, Saturn, Spica = Heavenly Guests



INTERPRETATION: As the First Dance at the Reception begins, as is tradition, the Bride first dances with Her Father (July 15th). As is also tradition, Her Father then hands Her over to Her Husband to continue with the First Dance (July 16th). Afterwards, as the night progresses, the Bride takes the time to mingle and visit with each of her Heavenly Guests, checking back in on occasion with Her Husband and Father to make sure they know that She has not forgotten about them (July 20th to August 22nd).



WOW, that was breath-taking. I felt like I was “holding on to the steering wheel” versus steering when I wrote that. How beautifully perfect, once again!!



And now, on to some of the responses from yesterday!!



YOUR FANTASTIC RESPONSES!!!



There were many more responses received yesterday on our Love Story on www.fivedoves.com!! Thanks for that!!



Rhonda: Thanks for you lovely encouragement!! http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/rhonda622.htm While I would love to publish a book, even if online, I feel I do not have the time. And if I did have the time, then what I would be writing about would be wrong!! See my dilemma? J Of course it is a dilemma easily solved by a soon RAPTURE!! May it be so!!



Josua: Thanks once again for your fine support and strengthening of the message!! http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/josua622.htm I truly look forward to meeting you (and all the Five Doves) in the air VERY SOON!!



Jimmy: Thanks for your reply to Andrea, with the above supplying even more information: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/jimmy622.htm



Frank Molver: Thanks for your reply!! While I agree that I have set no dates, I sincerely do hope that June 25 / 26 turns out to be the day for our Wedding with the Ultimate Groom. We will soon find out!! http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/frankm622.htm



Paul H: May MANY more souls get on the ark before it is too late!! Thanks for your encouragement!! What a Lord we will love serving for all ETERNITY!! http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/paulh622.htm



Babs: Thanks…and we shall meet VERY SOON!! http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/babs622.htm



Carol Hevel: Wow that brought tears to my eyes – THANKS!! However, you also made me want some Oreo Cookies & Chocolate Milk for my next Bible Study J!! AND YES, I AGREE WITH YOUR THANKS TO JOHN FOR MAKING THIS SITE SUCH A BLESSING AND CENTRAL MEETING SPOT, helping to fulfill Daniel’s prophecy that many shall go back and forth and knowledge shall increase!! Without John, this would be MUCH MORE DIFFICULT!! http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/carolh622.htm



Navi: Excellent articulation on the tie-ins to so many observations!! Thanks for that AND I really can’t believe you typed all that with a cell phone!! While hard to read on Five Doves as a result, it was well worth the effort (the lines spill past and you have to move left to right a lot to read): http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/navi622.htm



Randy: It is interesting that Chuck Swindol will be discussing the Rapture from June 21st to June 25th. IF we go home at the end of his study (June 25th), what perfect timing this would be!! I just LOVE Chuck’s straight forward humble teachings!! http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2012/randy622-2.htm



Just a reminder, ALL of your responses are always well appreciated, whether they are negative or positive!! Although, so far, this particular thread has seen nothing but positive replies (and for good reason)!! Does this mean for sure it is our Holy Spirit trying to get the same message to us? SURE HOPE SO, because it means we are going HOME VERY SOON!!



FYI, please note that the “Love Story in the Sky” was also posted on RITAN (thanks to Austin) and is continuing to receive good responses and view counts (Lisaleenie – I LOVE YOUR AWESOME HEART & LOVE FOR THE LORD – THANKS FOR ALWAYS BEING SUCH A BEACON OF LIGHT):



http://raptureintheairnow.com/our-mathematical-god-witness-of-the-stars/look-up-very-close



THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL OF YOUR WONDERFUL RESPONSES!! I am glad so many enjoyed the “Love Story in the Sky” as much as I enjoyed putting it together!! It truly seemed to be revealed to me as I was typing. I was really not sure at all where it would end when I started this research, but was delighted at the end to see its match to a beautiful Jewish romance!!



MARANATHA!! Surely our redemption draws EXTREMELY near!! EVEN THE SKY SCREAMS IT!!



YbiC, MathMan





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