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Mathman: "The Fallacy of the Seven Year Peace Treaty"


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"The Fallacy of the Seven Year Peace Treaty"


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Dear Doves,



Here is an excellent article outlining the fallacy of the Seven Year Peace Treaty and the false notion that the “prince that shall come” is referring to the Anti-Christ.



YbiC, MathMan



THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME
By Martel Trevor


In Daniel 9:27, there's a reference to a prince that shall come and "destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the temple".

Who is this mysterious "prince"?

If you listen to prophecy gurus they will tell you, time and again, it's the Antichrist.

There are only 5 problems with their ludicrous theory:

1. The Antichrist is NOWHERE mentioned in this verse.

2. The Antichrist, according to the Bible, will NOT destroy Jerusalem and the temple. Rather, he will occupy Jerusalem [Zechariah 14:2] and sit in the temple, passing himself off as God [2 Thessalonians 2:4]. Hence, there's NO WAY this "prince" can be the Antichrist.

3. This prophecy was already fulfilled, in precise detail, 2,000 years ago.

4. There's no "mystery" whatsoever as to the identity of this prince.

5. The fulfillment of this prophecy, exactly as foretold by the prophet Daniel, is HISTORIC FACT.

The prince in question is the Roman prince Titus, son of Caesar Vespasian, who destroyed Jerusalem and its temple in 70 A.D., EXACTLY as Daniel predicted.

Jerusalem and the first temple had been destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 B.C.

Daniel predicted that Jerusalem and the temple would be rebuilt, then ONCE AGAIN destroyed.

He predicted that, from the edict to rebuild Jerusalem to the Messiah, there would be 69 sabbatical "weeks" [483 years].

After the 483 years, in the middle of the FINAL week [3½ years later] Messiah would be killed (Daniel 9:27).

Then [after Messiah's death] this prince would come and destroy the city and the temple.

Everything happened, in exact sequence:

Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead in 33 A.D.

In 70 A.D. Jerusalem and the temple were totally destroyed, for the second time in history, this time by the Romans.

It even happened on the EXACT date on the Hebrew calendar on which the first temple and Jerusalem were destroyed, the 9th of Av.

According to historian Josephus, who was an eyewitness, both the city and the temple were so thoroughly and ruthlessly destroyed that, if he had not seen with his own eyes, that a city had once stood there, he wouldn't have believed it from the aftermath.

None of these things are in our future. They've ALREADY TAKEN PLACE IN OUR PAST.

All that remains of the "70 weeks" to be fulfilled is HALF A WEEK, which will be the future 3½ year reign of Antichrist. That's the ONLY part of this prophecy that still lies in our future.

So, why does the prophecy establishment insist this "prince" is the Antichrist?

Perhaps to bolster their even more ludicrous theory that the Antichrist will sign a "7-year peace treaty" with Israel and the Arabs.

It was our precious Lord Jesus Christ who [ALREADY] CONFIRMED THE ABRAHAMIC COVENANT WITH HIS EQUALLY PRECIOUS BLOOD [Galatians 3:17].

There are only two ways you can TWIST Daniel's prophecy to make it "fit" the Antichrist.

One, by IGNORING Galatians 3:17, where it states, UNEQUIVOCALLY, it was the Christ who confirmed the covenant.

Two, by taking verse 27 totally out of context, which amounts to scriptural and intellectual dishonesty.

That's another way of saying, it's a blatant lie.

If the "prince" mentioned in this verse were the Antichrist, prophecy quacks would THEN be forced to make the case that Titus is the future Antichrist, and that he will make a peace covenant with the Jews, who hate and despise him to this very day.

Whichever way you look at it, it simply doesn't hold water.

This already happened. Antichrist won't make a peace treaty with anybody, since he's a man of war.

People will either submit to his rule willingly, or they'll be FORCED to do so.

Those who refuse, WILL BE KILLED.

There won't be ANY peace [false, real, or imagined] during the tribulation.




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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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Re: Mathman: "The Fallacy of the Seven Year Peace Treaty"


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Gerlinda (30 May 2012)
"Mathman and Doves, why isn't it a Peace Treaty? What is it then?"


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MathMan (29 May 2012)
"The Fallacy of the Seven Year Peace Treaty"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2012/mathman529.htm

Regarding the article posted by Mathman, I'd like to add a bit as to why it is Christ, the Prince mentioned in Daniel 9:25, who did fulfill the Covenant and what is it that the A/C will cause to come into effect after he breaks the Abrahamic Covenant that allowed both believing Jew and Gentile to be free of the 613 Old Testament Laws that were impossible for man to keep by their shear numbers and to live in faith according to the work done upon the cross by the True Prince.

Few people realize that the A/C and his Revived Roman Empire, which includes all of the various Edomites and those mixed into that fold of the Synagogue of Satan, which prophecy also includes a Dannite, is in place just waiting to be enforced.

This New Covenant is something that will cause everyone to abandon their faith in the Covenant fulfilled by Jesus Christ and obey these NWO laws or be beheaded. These laws are called The Noahide Laws. There are seven. They sound great and hey! we all don't mind following the laws of Noah, right? Wrong. Read what is involved.

Remember the Covenant that will be broken is the one that Jesus Christ fulfilled so that the A/C can declare himself god and demand total obedience and worship to him. It has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with a Peace Treaty.

It is a slick move by the Illuminati to get the all to follow the Laws of the Edomites, whom already rule the world through the UN.

Thank You Mathman1

gerlinda

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/noahide_laws.htm

http://atrueott.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/persia-the-bloodline-of-ishmael-has-no-right-to-exist-edomite-noahite-law-of-the-pharisees/






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Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Your assertion this is Christ I must admit confuses me, for one simple reason: Christ warned in the Olivet Discourse this was a future event.

Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Mark 13:19-20 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

Another thing I'd like to point out is this person who "confirms the covenant" also commits the abomination of desolation. This would exclude the possibility of this ever being Christ.

So I must respectfully disagree with your position.





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Hello Martin, I am in total agreement with your assertion that it IS NOT the Messiah who does the confirming but the one who sets up the “abomination of desolation” that'll stand in the Kotel area around the western wall whom most likely will be Satan who arrives on that day?




However we must not forget that Seventy Shavuas or Feasts of weeks “were determined” to be counted out on November 29, 1947, when the UN determined that Israel had the ‘right’ to statehood. The first Shavua/Feast of Week fell on June 13, 1947 with the last to fall on May 31, 2017 in the Millennial Kingdom.



It will be on that day that“the transgressions will end, sin will be put to end, atonement for iniquity will be completed, everlasting righteousness will be brought in, both vision and prophecy will be sealed up, and a most holy place will be anointed”.



I believe this could take place on the very day, the 70th Shavua falls on when the ‘Third Temple’ is dedicated?



The 65th Shavua has past, we will enter year 66 on September 17, 2012 with that Shavua falling on May 15, 2013.



Another look at Daniel 9:27 (brackets my commentary)



Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one Shavua/week: ( between Shavua, May 27, 2012 and May 15, 2013 ) and in the midst of that Shavua (over Passover March 25, 2013 ) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.



The following texts out of Mark 13 below are fulfilled during the “storm of the LORD” of Isaiah 28:2 and Jeremiah 23:19-20, and Jeremiah 30:23-24 that occurs over Passover March 25, 2013.



That “storm” will also fulfills Revelation 12:10b that reads "NOW have come God's victory, power and kingship, AND the authority of His Messiah; BECAUSE the Accuser of our brothers, who accuses them day and night before God, HAS BEEN THROWN OUT!



It will be then that the Messiah will set up the Kingdom of God in the wilderness and shepherd and feed his flock for a time, times and dividing time, while the antichrist, Satan and his angels overspread their abominations that have been determined until the end! Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 12:13-15



Mark 13:14 But when you shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that reads understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Mark 13:19-20 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he has chosen, he has shortened the days.



Giving Him the glory an Ezekiel 33:6 watching one





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