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Steve Mullin (15 May 2012)
"My Case for Pentecost"


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Ok, so I've been thinking about this issue and Pentecost seems to be a very logical time for the rapture of the church, and I will explain why I believe it. I've come to the conclusion that there will be more than one rapture for multiple reasons. I tried to explain these reasons on raptureintheairnow.com, but got warned with the threat of account cancellation, despite the fact that I based what I believe on a very strong scriptural foundation. Their stance is that there is one rapture and everyone will go, and any opposition to that view is not acceptable.

I believe there will be two raptures because two people in scripture were raptured--Enoch and Elijah. God has dealt with two groups throughout scripture consistently--the Jews and the Gentiles. Enoch represents the Gentiles and Elijah represents the Jews. The story of Ruth and Boaz initiates at Pentecost.
Ruth is obviously comparable to the Gentiles being grafted in because she is not Jewish. Boaz was/is the kinsman redeemer as Jesus is. Marilyn Agee has made a strong case for two raptures and I have to agree that her stance is very well scripturally-supported. When one considers the 7 major feasts that God has ordained as holy convocations, the number "7" stands out. It's been stated that the 1st "group" of people who will be delivered from slavery and enter the promised land have completed the initial fulfillment of the 7 feasts. Pentecost, in my opinion would be the perfect fulfillment of the first rapture into heaven because it is the middle feast of the 7 and the raised candle on the Menorah.

Again, in my opinion, there is a rapture in Spring because of the Song of Solomon and another in the
Fall because of the Feast of Trumpets. The Feast of Trumpets is specifically known by Jews as "the feast that no one knows the day or hour". When Jesus says it, He is referring to the fact that only the Father knows when He will give the command to go retrieve His bride--an idiom. Additionally, the church was born on Pentecost and it would make sense that its conclusion would be on Pentecost.

When Jesus performed the miracle at the wedding by turning water into wine, I don't think it's an accident that He filled "Six" jugs, comparable to 6,000 years. He said he wouldn't drink of the vine
again until it was His day. Another comparison from scripture in my opinion is Jacob's (Israel's) pursuit
of His wife. His initial love was Rachel but Laban gave him Leah after 7 years of labor. He then worked
another 7 years for Rachel. It's looking like it was to the Jew first as Jesus exclaimed, then to the Gentile.

Jew-Gentile-Gentile-Jew. The Gentile period being the age of grace. Lazarus being dead for "4 days" is equivalent to the 2k years for the Jews and the 2k years of the Gentiles before God returns in the last days to deal with the final week of years, the Time of Jacob's Trouble. Though I'm not exactly sure how Joseph's dream of the 2 7-year periods regarding surplus and then famine figures in, it seems like it "fits" the whole picture. My guess is that the past 7 years have been relatively abundant compared to
the last 7 years that the inhabitants of the world will face. Another reason that Pentecost could be the
rapture of the church is that "Pentecost" is 50 days after Passover. The number 50 is very important to
the Jews because it is the Jubilee, the time when debts are forgiven and slaves are set free, an obvious
reference to the rapture.

I believe the Church or Gentiles will be raptured first, then the Jewish group will fulfill the final 3 feasts of scripture.

Appreciate any comments about my views. We are all searching for the truth. Hope we all get out of here soon!

Steve Mullin




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Robert Belanger (16 May 2012)
"Re: Steve Mullin - Two Raptures"

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Dear Steve,

I am responding to your interest in comments regarding more than rapture and the timing of the rapture being Pentecost.


“Ok, so I've been thinking about this issue and Pentecost seems to be a very logical time for the rapture of the church, and I will explain why I believe it. I've come to the conclusion that there will be more than one rapture for multiple reasons.”



http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2012/stevem515-1.htm



Steve, I enjoyed reading your message and I agree completely with your conclusion that there will be more than one rapture, actually two raptures, in these last days. I use the Lyn Mize terminology a First Fruits rapture on Pentecost, just before the Tribulation starts and a second rapture, 42 months later, at the middle of the Tribulation, which I refer to as a Main Harvest rapture.



I found that the book The Open Door by Lyn Mize provides the most complete explanation of the two-phase rapture that I have seen anywhere, with Scriptural texts. The website www.ffruits.org by the same author presents much of the same information. The Bride of Christ will consist of those living believers at the time of the end, just before the start of the Tribulation, who meet the requirements of the First Fruits rapture.



The requirements for believers being taken at the First Fruits rapture are: living in faithfulness to Jesus’ commandments to love one another and our enemies, making ourselves ready with a wedding garment from good works, such as helping the needy and praying for the sick to providing testimony to others. These are the believers who have died to self and are truly living their lives for Christ and His honor and glory. (Matt. 10:39) every day as their first priority.



They are the believers who are filled with love for their fellow men and women, who are faithful, loving Jesus and holding fast until the end, and expressing their love in many ways, e.g., assisting those in need, praying for the sick, visiting the lonely, prisoners, etc. in addition to honoring the Holy Spirit that dwells in themselves and other believers by striving always, as best they can given the spiritual obstacles from the present evil ruler of this world, to remain pure and free of idolatry and immorality of any kind.



The First Fruits rapture is a special entrance into heaven before the Tribulation starts for Christians who have matured during their lives and are ready for the harvesting. The following Scriptures describe this special exemption: 2 Peter 1:10-11, Luke 21:36. Of course, the parable of the Ten Virgins is a clear text describing the two raptures in Matt. 25:1-13.



On the other hand, those taken at the Main Harvest rapture will be those who “remain” and are left behind at the First Fruits rapture because of their lukewarm beliefs and worldliness, e.g. the Laodicaen believers. These are the believers who have missed out on crowns by living their lives controlled by their flesh natures without daily repenting and confessing their most recent sins for forgiveness (1 John 1:9). The most detailed Scripture regarding the Main Harvest rapture is Rev. 7:9-17. These believers are spiritually saved but at the time the Tribulation starts they are not matured to the point of being ready for harvest.



The first crown that is required before anyone can enter the kingdom of heaven is the crown of life. Salvation of the spirit, once obtained by accepting Jesus as Saviour, is never lost. However, rewards for living a faithful and spirit-controlled life in service to Christ will depend on good works performed after spirit salvation, as a sort of fruit that comes form the new creation when re-birth takes place. (Matt. 16:27).



Regarding timing, some think that Ascension Day, May 17, 2012, will be the First Fruits rapture, and others as myself believe the better candidate would be Pentecost, May 26/27, 2012 for many reasons such as you present in your message. It behooves us all therefore to make our best efforts to get closer to our Lord in these remaining days, by confessing any recent sins and re-dedicating our lives to service to Christ before all else.



Yours in Christ,



Robert


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