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Randy (11 Apr 2012)
"Rapture: Rosh Hashanah, 2012....as FORETOLD to us ALL on Rosh Hashanah, 2008 by the DOW Stock Market Drop"


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OK.........It's MY TURN ( finally...it's here....it's near....! ) for a RAPTURE DATE Selection...and here's why.

ALL of us saw the DOW Jones Stock Market Drop of -777.68 on the beginning of Rosh Hashanah, 2008...when the US Congress was voting for the FIRST "save the bank" bill that MOnday, Sept 29, 2008.

And, they voted NO!

Many of us posted that week about....WOW.....look at that number: 777.68. WOW, all those 7's.......three in fact..... 777 . Hmmmmmm, could it really MEAN SOMETHING TO US?????

Well, I pondered and prayed about that number for many months. And I have posted before about this.....

See: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2012/randy26-1.htm from 2/6/2012 and this: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/randy1210.htm from 12/10/2011.
And there were more as well.

Rather than go all through my calculations again....please read either of the above links.

In short, though.

1) IF the 777 meant something...then so must the .68.
2) I make the case that the .68 pointed forward in time by 355 days. (.68/.70=x/365) Solve for X and you get: 355 days.
3) 355 days forward took you to Rosh Hashanah, 2009....EXACTLY.

But then...I was stuck on what the three 7's meant. A few months later, on the day my father died....at the SAME time as he was dying.....and the day AFTER I'd asked the Lord to "tell me.....if You would....THE day for the Rapture." It was finally time to ask Him about this. I beleive He had shown me years before that the "time of the year" for the Rapture would be on a Jewish Feast day. When I had prayed for Him to show me the "time of the Year".....I had been shown (within the next 7 days...twice!) the parallel of the Jewish Feasts with Christ's first and second coming.....the second coming (the Rapture) would be on the Feast of Trumpets....or Rosh Hashanah, in the fall. (I'd never heard of the parallel of the Jewish Feasts and Christ's 1st and 2nd coming...this was NEW to me.)

I have seen MANY good write-ups about Rosh Hashanah, Feast of Trumpets, being the Jewish Feasts Rapture Timeframe.
See: http://www.bibleprophecyman.com/ This was written in August, 2011....and I "found it" shortly thereafter, online.

Anyway....

It came to me in early March, 2010....as my father lay dying..... that "I already knew" the date for the Rapture." As I lay in bed pondering this.....I wondered:

"If the .68 pointed to Rosh, 2009.......and the three 7's....meant 3 years......from when? From Rosh Hashanah, 2009. ??
(Remember......the .68 had pointed to Rosh Hashanah 2009.....from Rosh, 2008!)

So, if the 7's meant 3 years.....and IF that date FELL ON Rosh Hashanah, 2012...then maybe God HAD answered my question.

And....... 3 years from Rosh, 2009 (365 days for each year)....it DID fall on Rosh, 2012.

So........the question is: DID THE DOW DROP ON ROSH HASHANAH 2008....POINT TO ROSH HASHANAH 2012 Exactly?? AS the Date of the Rapture???


Or was / is it just a coincidence??? If it is just a coincidence....think how incredible this really is.....
1) The DOW fell a STRIKING 777 points.... in all, it fell 777.68.
2) SOMEONE...me?... had to figure out the significance of this. The 777 AND the .68 as well.
3) Then......IF I have the "key" to this riddle......what a coincidence that the .68 pointed to Rosh Hashanah the following year.
4) And then..... what a coincidence that the three 7's....pointed exactly to Rosh Hashanah, 2012..

Just a coincidence????? I dunno....... but I have been waiting for 3-1/2 years from the big DOW drop....and waiting the last 2 years since my "final insight" about the three 7's...... waiting until NOW......to start to want to SHARE THIS EVERY MONTH for the next 5 months.

Rosh Hashanah 2012 is just 5 months and 1 week away.

ALOT of us have been looking at this year, 2012.....with everything going on in the world, especially, Israel getting ready to hit Iran in a pre-emptive strike.....and then, all that might happen in the Middle East and around the world shortly thereafter. Alot of people have been wondering if this strike, the problems in Syria/Damascus....could be the fullfillment of the verse (I forget the quote) about the 'DESTRUCTION OF DAMASCUS"

So many things have been lining up this year.....the Middle East problems.....the financial problems in Europe (and still the US) NOTHING has been fixed..absolutely NOTHING. Europe and the US have simply "kicked the can down the road" and ALL the big financial problems from last year STILL NEED TO BE fixed. The problem is: THEY CANNOT BE FIXED!!! NONE OF THEM!!

So......I am excited as I look toward Rosh Hashanah this year....mid September.

ALOT could happen around the world in the next 5 months. IN my opinion, all the dominoes are lined up....just waiting for the Rapture to happen to knock them all down, and leave those left behind to have to deal with them.

TICK TOCK....
I CAN'T WAIT....
I hope this simple analysis of the DOW drop from Rosh 2008.....is from the Lord!!!

YFIC,
RAndy

PS....I think, once again, that the European Financial Crisis will "roll over" into our markets AGAIN this year in April or May.....just as it has in May, 2010 and again last year....in May. This time, though, it will be UNable to be fixed. Hey, the TV show 60 Minutes did a piece just last night....and the gal in England said "Greece WILL go under...we just don't know how bad it will be!"

Hmmmmm........ I was also reminded that there are only 11 Million people in Greece. I had not even thought of that during the past few years. And the thought occurred to me "You mean, it only took 11 million people to create the MESS that almost brought down the European Union financially??? " Yup, only 11 million people caused the 1/2 TRILLION $$$ mess in Greece.

Hey, just wait until Prtugal, Italy and Spain, (plus Ireland...the PIGS countries as they have become known...... hmmmmmm PIGS for the way they "ate" all the money away.....)

Hey....things ARE A MESS out there!! And they are NOT getting better......

I certainly hope for the Rapture this year in 2012. Rosh Hashanah would be fine with me. ( Earilier would be a nice gift, too...... but I think the Israel/Iran attack has to paly out over the next 3-5 months, just to give "diplomacy" the final chance to work??? )


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Randy (11 Apr 2012)
"Rapture on Rosh Hashanah - During the Fall Jewish Feast -Feast of Trumpets (2012?)"



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Early on in my study of End Times Bible Prophecy..... maybe 4 years after I started this journey in the fall of 1997.....

I decided to ask God "Lord.....we may not be able to know THE day of the Rapture, but can we KNOW the "time of the year" for the Rapture?"
I asked this while in my car traveling through Denver in early 2001.

In the next 7 days, 2 different sources taught me about the "Parallel of the Jewish Feasts and the first and second coming of Jesus Christ."

I had never heard of this before. But by now, almost ALL of us here at Five Doves know about this...whether you beleive it or not.

I do believe it.

And "the" Feast both sources talked about as "the" Feast for the Rapture was:

ROSH HASHANAH, in the Fall. The Feast of Trumpets.

My souces were:
1) Zola Levitt - A Messianic Jew. He was ADAMANT that the Rapture would be on Rosh Hashanah- Feast of Trumpets (Zola is dead now.....TV show still on sometimes)
and
2) Focus on the Family radio show, with a guest talking about the Rapture and the Jewish Feasts.
So, the Fall Feast of Rosh Hashanah has always held my attention each year since then as if the Rapture COULD happen then. (I also watch the spring feasts.....becuase I have seen a good case made for them as well.... hey, I've never heard God's voice in my ear delcaring "Yes Randy.....the Rapture is on Rosh Hashanah......!) lol..... Wish I HAD!!

Let's face it.....aren't we all doing some speculation with every date anyone thinks may be important for "the" date for the Rapture??

Here's as good a case any I"ve read....about why Rosh Hashanah is "the" time of the year...."the" Jewish Feast.....for the Rapture.
http://www.bibleprophecyman.com/

Anyway.......

I've had ONE Jewish Feast date planted firmly in my mind: Rosh Hashanah

and

I've had only ONE DATE, as "the" date for the Rapture..planted fimrly in my mind:
Rosh Hashanah, 2012.... (Read my next post today)

I have to say.....If we get past Rosh Hashanah.......and get past all of 2012....and there is NO Rapture...... I'm out of date options......I'm DONE..... and I will have to admit that I know nothing more, than like so many people on Five Doves over the last 14 years who I have seen go "all in" on a Rapture date...and that date came....and went.....and we were still here.

Tick Tock......??
I hope so....

YFIC,
Randy



Anyway......




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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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Randy (11 Apr 2012)
"Is the Rapture on Rosh Hashanah, 2012 - Feast of Trumpets?? My turn to go ALL IN now......"


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I've been waiting for Easter 2012 to be behind us...
and
I've been waiting for 2 years....if not 3-1/2 years..... to start a monthly series of posts that I will call:

"Reminders about the Rapture coming on Rosh Hashanah 2012 - The Feast of Trumpets - As foretold to us all on Rosh Hashanah 2008....when the DOW Jones Stock Market dropped an incredible: 777.68 points.......

So......here I go......

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There are 2 other posts today. Please read them as well.

They explain why I think the Rapture is......(will be....could be.......might be......better be! lol...)

........during the Feast of Trumpets, Rosh Hashanah, 2012. This year, mid September.

I'm going ALL IN.....for this date.

And my promise to you is.....IF I"M WRONG,

1) I will NOT "roll" my date forward for any reason.....
2) I will never again post with a date I think is "the" date....
and
3) I will have to admit....that I was simply wrong in my analaysis. And that the case I made was....simply......a coincidence......granted a BIG and INCREDIBLE coincidence...but none-the-less....a coincidence.

Please read the other 2 posts if you wish..

TICK TOCK??
I hope so...

YFIC,

RAndy



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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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