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Egypt's Coptic pope buried, Christians anxious



Egyptian Christians watch the funeral of late Pope Shenouda III, the patriarch of the Coptic Orthodox Church who led Egypt's Christian minority for 40 years during a time of increasing tensions with Muslims, at Mar Morqos, or St. Mark Coptic Orthodox Church in Cairo, Egypt, Tuesday, March 20, 2012. Tearful and wearing mourning black, tens of thousands of Egyptian Coptic Christians joined Tuesday a funeral mass for their patriarch, Pope Shenouda III, led by senior clerics at the main cathedral in Cairo. (AP Photo/Amr Nabil) — AP

WADI NATROUN, Egypt — Pope Shenouda III, an giant figure for 40 years at the helm of Egypt's Coptic Orthodox Church, was laid to rest on Tuesday in a desert monastery after a moving funeral Mass at a Cairo cathedral attended by tens of thousands.

Shenouda's death brought an outpouring of expressions of Muslim-Christian unity in this mainly Muslim and conservative Arab nation, but it may have done little to hide the alarm of Egypt's Christians over the political ascent of Islamists.

Away from the volatile sectarian politics of Egypt, the death of Shenouda united the nation's 10 million Christians in grief, alongside anxiety over the future.

Local clerics, visiting clergymen and dignitaries packed St. Mark's Cathedral in Cairo as deacons chanted somber hymns and bearded, black-clad priests and monks recited prayers and as incense smoke flowed from their censers. Shenouda's body lay in a white casket in the elaborate regalia he traditionally wore to oversee services, complete with an ornate golden crown.

Many in the congregation broke down in tears, while others frantically waved goodbye as the Mass came to a close. Clerics, deacons and laypeople gathered around the casket, kissing it, standing in silence or bowing in respect.

Shenouda died Saturday at age 88 after serving for four decades as head of the Coptic Orthodox Church, one of the world's oldest Christian denominations. Most of Egypt's Christians are Orthodox Copts.

"I know he is now in a better place, but it is difficult now he's gone. We miss you!" said a grief-stricken Marianne Saad as she stood with the thousands who followed the Mass outside the cathedral, carrying portraits of Shenouda and crosses. Many of them wept, wiping tears from their faces as the melancholic tunes of the hymns reached them through loudspeakers.

"He will always be in our hearts," said a young Christian man, Hani Suleiman.

The grief and anxiety traveled with the pope to the desert monastery of St. Bishoy northwest of Cairo, where he was buried in a white marble grave in the evening. Thousands of the faithful camped outside the monastery from the small morning hours to catch a glimpse of his casket.

Chaotic scenes erupted when a convoy of cars accompanying an ambulance carrying Shenouda's body arrived at the monastery before sunset. Military policemen struggled to control thousands of mourners who tried to push their way to the ambulance. Many in the crowd outside the monastery's walls tried to get inside when the convoy arrived, but soldiers kept them out.

Nearly an hour later, Shenouda's body was interred with a cross over it and covered with white flowers. Monks and laymen filled the burial chamber, and some of them ripped flowers off the cross to keep as souvenirs. Some used their cellular phone cameras to snap pictures or record the event in video.

The monastery, which dates back to the 4th century, was a favorite of Shenouda's. He spent more than three years of exile there after he was banished in 1981 by then-President Anwar Sadat, who claimed the patriarch was fomenting sectarian strife. Sadat's successor, Mubarak, released the pope in 1985.

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Egyptian senior clerics gather to pay their final respects during the funeral for Pope Shenouda III at the Coptic Orthodox cathedral in Cairo, Egypt, Tuesday, March 20, 2012. Tens of thousands of Egypt's Coptic Christians are taking part in a funeral mass led by senior clerics for the death of their patriarch, Pope Shenouda III, at the main cathedral in Cairo. Shenouda died on Saturday at age 88 after spending 40 years at the helm of the Coptic Orthodox Church. (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser) — AP


Egyptian senior clerics gather to pay their final respects during the funeral for Pope Shenouda III at the Coptic Orthodox cathedral in Cairo, Egypt, Tuesday, March 20, 2012. Tens of thousands of Egypt's Coptic Christians are taking part in a funeral mass led by senior clerics for the death of their patriarch, Pope Shenouda III, at the main cathedral in Cairo. Shenouda died on Saturday at age 88 after spending 40 years at the helm of the Coptic Orthodox Church. (AP



Egyptian senior clerics gather to pay their final respects during the funeral of Pope Shenouda III at the Coptic Orthodox cathedral in Cairo, Egypt, Tuesday, March 20, 2012. Tens of thousands of Egypt's Coptic Christians are taking part in a funeral mass led by senior clerics for the death of their patriarch, Pope Shenouda III, at the main cathedral in Cairo. Shenouda died on Saturday at age 88 after spending 40 years at the helm of the Coptic Orthodox Church. (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser



Egyptian senior clerics gather to pay their final respects during the funeral of Pope Shenouda III at the Coptic Orthodox cathedral in Cairo, Egypt, Tuesday, March 20, 2012. Tens of thousands of Egypt's Coptic Christians are taking part in a funeral mass led by senior clerics for the death of their patriarch, Pope Shenouda III, at the main cathedral in Cairo. Shenouda died on Saturday at age 88 after spending 40 years at the helm of the Coptic Orthodox Church. (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser) — AP



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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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The Pope is dead: Long live the Pope
March 19, 2012


The dead Coptic pope is crowned, and kept for public display on a throne.



The dead Egyptian Pope is kept for public display.

The body of Pope Shenouda III, the head of Egypt’s 12 million Coptic Orthodox is displayed for public viewing inside the Abbasiya Cathedral in Cairo March 18, 2012.



The Copts and their dead Pope in Egypt.

What to say?

Why put a crown on a dead person, dress him up in kings cloths, and display him “sitting” on a throne?

This is grotesque. This is worship of a dead created being. The Bible says: Do not worship or consult the dead:

Isaiah 19:3
The Egyptians will lose heart, and I will bring their plans to nothing; they will consult the idols and the spirits of the dead, the mediums and the spiritists.

Jesus said:


Matthew 22:31-32

But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’ ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

There are surely some saved Coptic Christians.

But it is not possible to include the Coptic Church as a Christian Church. This religious movement is some kind of antisemitic Orthodox Catholic, separated, but on their way “home to Rome”.

Written by Ivar



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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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