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 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:   Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." I Thess. 4:16-17 (KJV)

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10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
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25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
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Psa. 122:6   Pray  shalom Jerusalem:3389/3384 (to flow as waters):  prosper love. 7 Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces. 8 For my brethren and companions’ sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee. 9 Because of the house of the LORD our God I will seek thy good.


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Prophecy Is Multi-layered


This is the very problem….. Most do not understand that prophecy comes multi-layered. For instance, everyone understands how the 70 weeks of Daniel (Dan 9:24-27) meant the First Coming of our Messiah ( 70 X 7 = 490 yrs.) But..... our Father Himself tells us there is more to Scripture and Prophecy than just the surface meanings……..




Isa 46:9-10 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:



Since He explained how the “ancient things” reveal the “future,” and from the beginning (Creation Week) He declared/revealed the end (Latter Years), it is just like our Father to use the same Daniel Scriptures (Dan 9:24-27) to reveal, not only our Messiah’s First Coming, but to reveal BOTH…the First and the Second Coming, and He does just that... He is the master at this and He will not be limited.



Consider the Manna: While feeding Israel, the Father gave them the 1 through 7 week; He gave them the Sabbath, He gave them a task for them to obey seeing if they would walk in His law or not, He gave them the calendar, and the location of the Feast days that would be given soon. He also gave them a Prophetic Shadow Picture… As Israel took the manna (bread from Heaven) into their bodies He illustrated the True Bread From Heaven who was to come exemplifying the spiritual picture of how we are to take the Messiah into us, and on and on......... He did a multi-layered work by using only one thing. The wisdom of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob cannot be measured


Yes, what one prophecy or timing means to one generation, the same prophecy can reveal a deeper understanding to a future generation as Yah reveals more of Himself; even another level of fulfillment that did not pertain to a past generation. People get stuck in the single mind-set thinking: "OK that prophecy has been fulfilled now on to the next one,” and all the while become blind to what is happening in our own lifetime.


An excellent example of this degreed fulfillment is found in the 30, 60, and 100-fold pattern in growth and prophecy that Yeshua Himself taught.



Some brought forth fruit, some 30-fold and some 60-fold and some 100-fold. This is the same as to say: Fruit (30-fold); More Fruit (60-fold); and Much Fruit (100-fold). Another is being baptized with Water (30), with the Holy Ghost (60), and with Fire (100-fold). Also we see the same pattern in the good (30), acceptable (60), and perfect (100-fold) will of the Father being done. Or how about first the blade (30-fold), then the corn in the ear (60-fold), and finally the full ear of corn (100-fold)...



A major example of 30, 60, and 100-fold is also the Tabernacle itself: the outer court (30), the inner court (60) and the Holy of Holies (100-fold). The pieces of furniture not only represent an order of worship, but also each piece represents one of the Feasts of the LORD, each piece represents one day in the creation week, each piece represents a separate millennia, as well as our spiritual walk toward Him, and much more.


There are many such examples of degrees of fulfillment in prophecy as when Yah revealed the end while giving us the beginning…. thus we also recognize the multi-layered fulfillment of Daniel. Our Father will not allow what was to stop what is yet prophesied to come.



To give further witness to Daniel’s prophecy as a multi-layered prophecy, Daniel 9:24 speaks about the end of several things.



Da 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.





Have all the transgressions been finished, has an end been made to all sin or is it still going on, has everlasting righteousness been ushered in yet, has the Most Holy been anointed yet, etc., etc? In a measure they have by Yeshua’s death, burial, and resurrection, but obviously not to the fullness that He intends to do in our generation. So we can clearly see there is much more to this prophecy than just the surface reading.



Another witness: One might say the swine sacrificed on the Altar by Antiochus Epiphanes fulfilled Daniel’s abomination prophecy. Another can say no, it was the Dome of the Rock that was set up 1300+years ago that fulfilled the Daniel’s abomination prophecy. The fact remains that another abomination will be set up on the Temple mount other than what has happened in the past. It is that abomination that starts the remaining 1260-day woman in the wilderness and the 1260-day two witness prophecies. There will be another abomination all right and it will be set up just days after the Altar is shut down in 2013. Yah will not allow what was, to stop what is prophesied to come. Whatever measure of prophecy that has been fulfilled in the past will not prevent the plurality of the same prophecy that is yet to come.


Now, what about the Messiah being cut off? He cannot be crucified a second time so how can this be multi-layered…? The word used for “cut off” is “Karath” and comes with multi-layered meanings too.



Cut off:

Karath (kaw-rath'); Verb, Strong #: 3772


to cut, cut off, cut down, cut off a body part, cut out, eliminate, kill, cut a covenant
We know, as Yeshua taught, when we accept Him into our lives (partake of His blood and His body) we become part of " His body." ( known in the Christian community as "the body of Christ" ) And it was Yeshua Himself who said what you have done to the least of one of these (we who are His) is the same as doing it unto Him. Should someone should harm you or kill you for His sake, Yeshua takes this personally as doing it unto Him. And... there will also be an agreement/covenant confirmed only to be cut off in the midst of the final "Week" as well.

For all practical purposes, this world and this country we live in has already begun trying to cut Him off. This evil world will certainly try to cut Yeshua off from even mentioning His name. Those who refuse to deny Him and continue to profess Him will be labeled as religious fanatics and eventually considered a threat to national security. The evil powers of this world are out to cut Him off all right; they try to cut Him off more and more every day; out of schools, court rooms, public prayer, and every other place they can think of to eliminate Him off the face of the earth. One day in the near future we may not even be able to mention His name without being arrested, or even killed just like it was almost 2000 years ago when the believers were persecuted.


All of the things given to Daniel were to be sealed up UNTIL the latter days and those days are upon us.


Da 12:9-10 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.


Even Yeshua spoke in ways that the wise would understand but the wicked would not.


Mt 13:34-35 All these things spake Yeshua unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.



Again, we MUST understand this .......... whatever measure of prophecy that has been fulfilled in the past will not prevent the plurality of the same prophecy that is yet to come.


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A Seven Year "At a Glance" Calendar

( The Great Tribulation is the last 3 1/2 Years of the 7 year Prophetic Week )




Mat 24:15-21 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, ( whoso readeth, let him understand: ) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.





Those who believe in the False Doctrine called "The Pre-Tribulation Rapture" obviously do not believe the "Final 7yr Week" has begun simply because they have not been raptured ! This is a critical error on their part. They usually reason as follows: I haven't been raptured so this is proof the last 7yr week has not started and since the last 7yr period has not started, is the reason why I haven't been raptured.......... It is called "Circular Reasoning."







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Yeshua’s Crucifixion Fits Daniel’s Timeline Prophecy - Documented By Israel’s Ancient History



The following is from the Information Division of the Israel Foreign Ministry:



Roman Rule ( 63 BCE-313 CE ) =========================================

When the Romans replaced the Seleucids as the great power in the region, they granted the Hasmonean king, Hyrcanus II, limited authority under the Roman governor of Damascus. The Jews were hostile to the new regime, and the following years witnessed frequent insurrections. A last attempt to restore the former glory of the Hasmonean dynasty was made by Mattathias Antigonus, whose defeat and death brought Hasmonean rule to an end (40 BCE), and the Land became a province of the Roman Empire. In 37 BCE Herod, a son-in-law of Hyrcanus II, was appointed King of Judea by the Romans. Granted almost unlimited autonomy in the country's internal affairs, he became one of the most powerful monarchs in the eastern part of the Roman Empire. A great admirer of Greco-Roman culture. Herod launched a massive construction program, which included the cities of Caesarea and Sebaste and the fortresses at Herodium and Masada. He also remodeled the Temple into one of the most magnificent buildings of its time. But despite his many achievements, Herod failed to win the trust and support of his Jewish subjects. Ten years after Herod's death (4 BCE), Judea came under direct Roman administration. Growing anger against increased Roman suppression of Jewish life resulted in sporadic violence that escalated into a full-scale revolt in 66 CE. Superior Roman forces led by Titus were finally victorious, razing Jerusalem to the ground (70 CE) and defeating the last Jewish outpost at Masada.

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Israel’s history documents that Herod, a great admirer of Greco-Roman culture, was given rule in 37BC. The commandment to restore and rebuild could have gone forth as early as one year after Herod was granted unlimited autonomy in the country’s internal affairs. This would place the time at 36BC when the restoration began on several projects including the Temple.

The prophecy in Daniel 9:25-27 plainly states that after threescore and 2 weeks (62 years) have passed from the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem, the Messiah will be cut off in the midst of the week (within a 7yr period).

Yeshua's ministry began in 27AD at His baptism (Mikvah) during the Feast of Shavuot (Pentecost) followed a 40 day fast in which He was tempted. This was only a few months before the fall Feast of the LORD as Yeshua began to reach 30 years of age.

If Yeshua’s ministry lasted 3 1/2 years before He was crucified, this puts the crucifixion year in 30AD and within the 7 year week. If Yeshua's ministry only lasted 70 weeks as some have begun to teach, the crucifixtion year still falls within the seven year week. This also falls in line with His birth at 3 BC…

Certainly this was fulfilled just as Daniel’s prophecy stated.




As you can see, this would have also fit the 69 year prophecy perfectly as well (from the commandment to restore unto the Messiah the Prince shall be threescore, seven and two weeks).

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An interesting thought arises.......

Had Yeshua finished the 7 year prophetic week, is there any possibility the Kingdom could have been established if Yeshua had been recognized as the Messiah; could He have been Crowned Prince? Is there any hint at all in the scriptures allowing this to be considered as even a remote possibility?

I really don't know, but in Isaiah 46:9-10 we are told by God Himself to: remember the former things of old, that He, declares the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done; which means the past will show the future.

Now, that being said, there is a very interesting parallel that surfaces......

When the scribes and the Pharisees asked Yeshua for a sign, He said there is no sign given but Jonas 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the whale, and thats where most everyone stops, after connecting the 3 days and nights.

But, finishing the story, Jonas was told to tell the people of Nineveh of the judgment that was about to fall on them and they were all about to be destroyed. Every man, woman, child, and beast fasted 40 days, God stayed the judgment and destroyed them not because (1) they believed God and (2) repented of their evil ways.

Yeshua recounts this experience to the scribes and Pharisees below:

Mt 12:38-41

38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation,and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

Also there is the following verse:

Mt 12:6-7 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple. But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

So, to answer the question: Had they recognized Him as the Messiah and finished the 7 year prophetic week, is there any possibility this could have meant the Kingdom would have been established; could He have been Crowned Prince at that time?

I cannot say, but I personally would not label it as completely out of the question. After all it is written, "With God, all things are possible."



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Time: Our Creator's Calendar - The Foundation




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Rick (6 June 2012)
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Fellow Doves,

For 25+ years I've always believed there was going to be a Peace treaty with Israel, signed (or confirmed) by the Antichrist, which we will begin the 7 year tribulation. I also firmly believed we would be raptured before the AC appeared on the scene....you could say i was a 100% pre-tribber. Until I studied the Word of God for myself.


Here's what we already know:
Dan 9:24-27 says the AC will arise and confirm a covenant (agreement) with the many. While I disagree with Ron Reese and Mathman's 2008-2015 timeline, i believe they were on track by naming Obama as the AC...but i believe they are looking at the wrong starting date as the beginning of the final 7 years.

"Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate..." (verse 27).

We know that the "one week" is the final 7 year period.
We agree that the middle of the final 7 years, the sacrifices cease and the abomination is set up.

Here's what I recently discovered, regarding Dan 9:27:

"Then he (antichrist) shall confirm a covenant (agreement) with many for one week..."

I believe the 7 year period (one week) isn't something that was planned by man to be an actual 7 year peace treaty with Israel. Rather, the final 7 years (one week) that Daniel already marked out for us in this prophecy of the 70 years began when a "peace agreement" was made to the world. I believe this "peace agreement" made to the world was when the Nobel Peace prize was awarded to Obama on Oct 9, 2009.

Dan 11:21 tells us, "...but he shall come in peaceably and seize the kingdom by intrigue".

Dan 11:23-24, "And after the league is made with him he shall act deceitfully, for he shall come up and become strong with a small number of people. He shall enter peaceably, even into the richest places of the province; and he shall do what his fathers have not done, nor his forefathers: he shall disperse among them the plunder, spoil, and riches, and he shall devise his plans against the strongholds, but only for a time".



Oct 9, 2009 is the date that began the final 7 years!!

For those who have watched the "Daniels Timeline" video series (www.danielstimeline.com SEE VIDEO at The TOP OF THIS THREAD) published in 2005, you know that the presenter used "scripture to validate scripture" and thus, marked out March 22, 2013 as the exact mid-point of the final 7 years. I was SHOCKED when i discovered that exactly 1260 days prior to March 22, 2013 was Oct 9, 2009....the exact date the Norwegien Nobel Committee announced the Nobel Peace prize was to be awarded to Obama (http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/laureates/laureates-2009/announce-2009/).


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Updated Version with NEW GRAPICS

THE "HE" IN DANIEL IS JESUS CHRIST NOT THE anti Christ

THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND - THE '1599 GENEVA BIBLE' DANIEL 9:26 FOOTNOTE [ a } STATES..........


That Messiah came in the seventieth week . Read it for yourself . Go to Bible Gateway 1599 Geneva Bible Daniel 9:26 and read footnote a.



The word "least' here means 'last' and is numbered "seventy".


Bible Gateway

Daniel 9

1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)



9 3 Daniel desireth to have that performed of God, which he had promised concerning the return of the people from their banishment in Babylon. 5 A true confession. 20 Daniel’s prayer is heard. 21 Gabriel the Angel expoundeth unto him the vision of the seventy weeks. 24 The anointing of Christ. 25 The building again of Jerusalem. 26 The death of Christ.



1 In the first year of Darius the son of [ a ]Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the [ b ]realm of the Chaldeans,



2 Even in the first year of his reign, I Daniel understood by [ c ]books the number of the years, whereof the Lord had spoken unto Jeremiah the Prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolation of Jerusalem.



3 And I turned my face unto the Lord God, and [ d ]sought by prayer and supplications with fasting and sackcloth and ashes.



4 And I prayed unto the Lord my God, and made my confession, saying, Oh Lord God which art [ e ]great and fearful, and keepest covenant and mercy toward them which love [ f ]thee, and toward them that keep thy commandments,



5 We have sinned and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, yea, we have rebelled, and have departed from thy precepts, and from thy judgments.



6 For we would not obey thy servants the Prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, to our princes, and to our fathers, and to all the people of the land.



7 O Lord, [ g ]righteousness belongeth unto thee, and unto us [ h ]open shame, as appeareth this day unto every man of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, yea, unto all Israel, both near and far off, through all the country, whither thou hast driven them, because of their offences, that they have committed against thee.



8 O Lord, unto us appertaineth open shame, to our [ I ]Kings, to our princes, and to our fathers, because we have sinned against thee.



9 Yet compassion and forgiveness is in the Lord our God, albeit we have rebelled against him.



10 For we have not obeyed the [ j ]voice of the Lord our God, to walk in his laws, which he hath laid before us by the ministry of his servants the Prophets.



11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy Law, and are turned back, and have not heard thy voice: therefore the [ k ]curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the Law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.



12 And he hath confirmed his words, which he spake against us, and against our judges that [ l ]judged us, by bringing upon us a great plague: for under the whole heaven hath not been the like, as hath been brought upon Jerusalem.



13 All this plague is come upon us, as it is written in the Law of Moses: yet made we not our prayer before the Lord our God, that we might turn from our iniquities and understand thy truth.



14 Therefore hath the Lord made ready the plague, and brought it upon us: for the Lord our God is righteous in all his works which he doeth: for we would not hear his voice.



15 And now, O Lord our God, that hast brought thy people out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand, and hast gotten thee renown, as appeareth this day, we have sinned, we have done wickedly.



16 O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let thine anger and thy wrath be turned away from thy city Jerusalem thine holy Mountain: because of our sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and thy people are a reproach to all that are about us.



17 Now therefore, O our God, hear the prayer of thy servant, and his supplications, and cause thy face to [ o ]shine upon thy Sanctuary, that lieth waste for the Lord’s sake.



18 O my God, incline thine ear and hear: open thine eyes, and behold our desolations, and the city whereupon thy Name is called: for we do not present our supplications before thee for our own [ q ]righteousness, but for thy great tender mercies.



19 O Lord hear, O Lord forgive, O Lord [ r ]consider, and do it: defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy Name is called upon thy city, and thy people.



20 ¶ And while I was speaking and praying, and confessing my sin, and the sin of my people Israel, and did present my supplication before the Lord my God, for the holy Mountain of my God,



21 Yea, while I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen before in the vision, came flying, and touched me about the time of the evening oblation.



22 And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee knowledge and understanding.



23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to show thee, for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter and consider the vision.



24 Seventy [ s ]weeks are determined upon [ t ]thy people and upon thine holy city, to finish the wickedness, and to seal up ( u )the sins, and to reconcile the iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.



25 Know therefore and understand that from ( v ) the going forth of the commandment to bring again the people, and to build Jerusalem, unto Messiah the Prince, shall be seven [ w ] weeks and threescore and two weeks, and the street shall be built again, and the wall even in a [ y ]troublous time.



26 And after threescore and two [ z ]weeks, shall Messiah be slain, and shall [ aa ]have nothing, and the people of the [ ab ]prince that shall come, shall destroy the city and the Sanctuary, and the end thereof shall be with a flood: and unto the end of the battle it shall be destroyed by desolations.



27 And he [ ac ]shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to [ ad ]cease, [ ae ]and for the overspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Footnotes:

a. Daniel 9:1 Who was also called Astyages.

b. Daniel 9:1 For Cyrus led with ambition, went about wars in other countries, and therefore Darius had the title of the kingdom, though Cyrus was king in effect.

c. Daniel 9:2 For though he was an excellent Prophet, yet he daily increased in knowledge by reading of the Scriptures.

d. Daniel 9:3 He speaketh not of that ordinary prayer, which he used in his house thrice a day, but of a rare and vehement prayer, least their sins should cause God to delay the time of their deliverance prophesied by Jeremiah.

e. Daniel 9:4 That is, hast all power in thyself to execute thy terrible judgments against obstinate sinners, as thou art rich in mercy to comfort them which obey thy word and love thee.

f. Daniel 9:4 Hebrew, him.

g. Daniel 9:7 He showeth that whensoever God punisheth, he doeth it for just cause: and thus the godly never accuse him of rigor as the wicked do, but acknowledge that in themselves there is just cause why he should so entreat them.

h. Daniel 9:7 Hebrew, confusion of face.

i. Daniel 9:8 He doth not excuse the kings because of their authority, but prayeth chiefly for them as the chief occasions of these great plagues.

j. Daniel 9:10 He showeth that they rebel against God, which serve him not according to his commandment and word.

k. Daniel 9:11 As Deut. 27:15, or the curse confirmed by an oath.

l. Daniel 9:12 Or, governed us.

m. Daniel 9:14 Hebrew, watched upon the evil.

n. Daniel 9:16 That is, according to all thy merciful promises and the performance thereof.

o. Daniel 9:17 Show thyself favorable.

p. Daniel 9:17 That is, for thy Christ’s sake in whom thou wilt accept all our prayers.

q. Daniel 9:18 Declaring, that the godly flee only unto God’s mercies, and renounce their own works, when they seek for remission of their sins.

r. Daniel 9:19 Thus he could not content himself with any vehemence of words: for he was so led with a fervent zeal considering God’s promise made to the city in respect of his Church, and for the advancement of God’s glory.

s. Daniel 9:24 He alludeth to Jeremiah’s prophecy: who prophesied that their captivity should be seventy years: but now God’s mercy should sevenfold exceed his judgment, which should be four hundred and ninety years, even to the coming of Christ, and so then it should continue forever.

t. Daniel 9:24 Meaning, Daniel’s nation, over whom he was careful.

u. Daniel 9:24 To show mercy and to put sin out of remembrance.

v. Daniel 9:25 That is, from the time that Cyrus gave them leave to depart.

w. Daniel 9:25 These weeks make forty-nine years, whereof 46 are referred to the time of the building of the Temple, and three to the laying of the foundation.

x. Daniel 9:25 Counting from the sixth year of Darius, who gave the second commandment for the building of the Temple are 62 weeks, which make 434 years, which comprehend the time from the building of the Temple unto the baptism of Christ.

y. Daniel 9:25 Hebrew, in straits of time.

z. Daniel 9:26 In this least week of the seventy, shall Christ come and preach and suffer death.

aa. Daniel 9:26 He shall seem to have no beauty, nor to be of any estimation, as Isa. 53:2.

ab. Daniel 9:26 Meaning Titus, Vespasian’s son, who should come and destroy both the Temple and the people without all hope of recovery.

ac. Daniel 9:27 By the preaching of the Gospel he confirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.

ad. Daniel 9:27 Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.

ae. Daniel 9:27 Meaning, that Jerusalem and the Sanctuary should be utterly destroyed for their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague shall be so great, that they shall be all astonied at them.





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THERE IS NO 7 YEAR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE

THERE IS NO 7 YEAR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE VERSE IN THE BIBLE

THE 7 YEAR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE DOCTRINE IS FALSE AND MANY HAVE BEEN DECEIVED TO BELIEVE IN A 7 YEAR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE DOCTRINE



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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

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