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Rick Warren “One World” all faiths prayer for Obama
November 19, 2011
This is a transcript of Rick Warrens prayer for President Obama, made 20th of January 2009 at the lawn of the White House.


Rick Warren blessed Obama using Islams "Esa" in the same prayer as he used "Jesus".

Almighty God, our father, everything we see and everything we can’t see exists because of you alone. It all comes form you, it all belongs to you, it all exists for your glory. History is your story.

The Scripture tells us, ‘Hear, oh Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one’ and you are the compassionate and merciful one and you are loving to everyone you have made.

Now today we rejoice not only in America’s peaceful transfer of power for the 43rd time, we celebrate a hinge-point of history with the inauguration of our first African American president of the united states.

We are so grateful to live in this land, a land of unequaled possibility, where a a son of an African Immigrant can rise to the highest level of our leadership. And we know today that Dr. King and a great cloud of witnesses are shouting in heaven.

Give to our new president, Barack Obama, the wisdom to lead us with humility, the courage to lead us with integrity, the compassion to lead us with generosity. Bless and protect him, his family, Vice President Biden, the Cabinet and every one of our freely elected leaders.

Help us, oh God, to remember that we are Americans. United not by race or religion or by blood, but to our commitment to freedom and justice for all. When we focus on ourselves, when we fight each other, when we forget you, forgive us.

When we presume that our greatness and our prosperity is ours alone, forgive us. when we fail to treat our fellow human beings and all the earth with the respect that they deserve, forgive us.

And as we face these difficult days ahead, may we have a new birth of clarity in our aims, responsibility in our actions, humility in our approaches and civility in our attitudes—even when we differ.

Help us to share, to serve and to seek the common good of all. May all people of good will today join together to work for a more just, a more healthy and a more prosperous nation and a peaceful planet.

And may we never forget that one day, all nations, all people will stand accountable before You. We now commit our new president and his wife Michelle and his daughters, Malia and Sasha, into your loving care.

I humbly ask this in the name of the one who changed my life—Yeshua, Esa, Jesus, Jesus—who taught us to pray:
Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be they name. They kingdom come, they will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil, for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.

Amen.

Source: Jewish Journal

This is the first time I have studied the transcript of the prayer Rick Warren used to bless Obama, as a Muslim by birth entered the White House.

There is a lot of stuff in this prayer that will please people of all faiths. It is not challenging to anyone.

1. ‘Hear, oh Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one’

No Jew will be offended by this. Jesus quoted the Torah, and explained that He and the Father are One. They are singular, One, always in agreement. But in form, Elohim is a plural Hebrew word. God is three in One. God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

2. “and you are the compassionate and merciful one”.


Every Muslim will rejoice, that Warren feels the Bible told Israel this. Because the “merciful One” in not “The great I AM”, but “allah”.

He is “allah – there is no deity but Him. He is the Knower of the Unseen and the Visible. He is the All-Merciful, the Most Merciful. He is “allah”.


Source: The way of the Mahdi

113 of 144 Surahs in the Koran, starts with this name of “allah”: Merciful. All Merciful, and Most Merciful.

Here is Surah 65 in the Koran.

Do you not see that Allah has made subservient to you whatsoever is in the earth and the ships running in the sea by His command? And He withholds the heaven from falling on the earth except with His permission; most surely Allah is Compassionate, Merciful to men..

Some more points:

3. “And we know today that Dr. King and a great cloud of witnesses are shouting in heaven”.

The Pope claims he knows who has made it to heaven. The Pope is infallible when he canonize departed saints. Rick Warren has the same powers. He know “Dr. King is in Heaven”, even shouting, celebrating the outcome of the American election. That is Amazing.

4.I humbly ask this in the name of the one who changed my life—Yeshua, Esa, Jesus, Jesus—who taught us to pray:

All Muslims must have rejoiced, when Warren acknowledged that Jesus and the Muslim prophet Isa (Esa) is the same man.

If not so, why are they mentioned in the same prayer?

This is the most shocking to me. I never thought Warren would expose his universalism, by using Esa in his blessings of the Obamas.

Who is Esa?

What is he doing inside a Christian prayer?

To my best knowledge Rick Warren is a double talker.

He do not practice what he preach. We can acknowledge his universalism, by reading this prayer. Warren is a dangerous false teacher of a new “god” who accept lawlessness. Warren use the name of “Jesus” for his own convenience.

The rise of “Chrislam” is going on. Saddelback Church, a member of World Council of Churches (WCC), has taken the lead.

Written by Ivar





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Re: Ivar: News that Matters: Rick Warren “One World” all faiths prayer for Obama

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Rick Warren Addresses Rumors He Supports Chrislam
2:21PM EST 11/14/2011 JENNIFER LECLAIRE

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Sami M. Angawi, left, talks with Evangelical pastor Rick Warren, right, at the Islamic Society of North America’s 46th annual convention in Washington, July 4, 2009. Evangelical megachurch pastor Rick Warren says America's largest Islamic organization showed courage when it invited him to speak at its annual convention. (AP Images/Luis M. Alvarez)

Rick Warren is calling his affiliation with Chrislam (a bridge-building attempt to allow the two religions to coexist) “nonsense” and “a lie that won’t die.”

Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church, directly responded to one of his Twitter followers on the microblogging site on Saturday. The question was: “Old guy on TV claims u support chrislam. True?”

That “old guy” was likely Jack Van Impe, the popular end-times television host who walked way from TBN in the wake of a dispute over naming well-known ministers he claims are mixing Muslim and Christian beliefs.

Warren had previously commented about the rumors in response to a blog post where people were attacking him for his reported support of Chrislam. In the comment, he pointed to Proverbs 14:15, which states “Only a fool believes all that he hears.”

Here is the rest of Warren’s response:

The so-called "Chrislam" rumor is 100 percent false. If the guy who started this libelous myth, or anyone else who passed it on, had obeyed our Lord's command (Matt. 18:18-20) to come directly to me, and then asked what I actually believed—they would have been embarrassed to learn that I believe the exact opposite. As a fourth generation Christian pastor, my life and ministry is built on the truth that Jesus is the only way, and our inerrant Bible is our only true authority.

As an evangelist, I spend much of my time speaking to non-Christian groups. You cannot win your enemies to Christ; only your friends, so we must build bridges of friendship and love to those who believe differently so Jesus can walk across that bridge into their hearts. Besides, it is not a sin, but rather COMMANDED by Jesus that we love our enemies. In the past 10 years, Saddleback Church has baptized over 22,000 new adult believers—simply because we express love to those who don’t know Christ yet.

It is nonsense to believe that you must compromise your beliefs, or water down your convictions in order to love someone, or even just treat them with dignity.

Jesus was called "the friend of sinners" by the legalistic Pharisees because he hung out with (and clearly loved) unbelievers. I HOPE YOU will 1) Always believe that EVERYONE needs Jesus as their Lord & Savior. 2) Have the courage to associate with nonbelievers in order to love them and bring them to the Savior. 3) Consider being called "a friend of sinners" a Christ-like compliment. 4) Refuse to pass on rumors until you've checked for the truth with the person accused. The false statements above should be removed.

Will this put an end to the controversy? Should it? Or is it, as Warren says, the "lie that won't die"?

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Hi Jennice,

I have to agree with Jan Markell, Brannon Howse, Pastor Larry DeBruyn, Pastor Bob DeWaay and anyone else who thinks that Rick Warren is a wolf in sheep's clothing. The evidence is overwhelming you may not see things as these people nor may you agree but in the end God will expose Rick Warren as a false teacher as well as the "dominion now" group. NAR= New Apostolic Reformation.

Chrislam is a joke from the 'pit of hell' ( MY Opinion) See bottom posts: Chrislam

God Bless

Maranatha

Keep Looking UP.

ybic

Steven

March 29, 2008 - Hour 2
Pastor Larry DeBruyn has authored the new book, "Church on the Rise: Why I am not a Purpose-Driven Pastor."
DeBruyn does not attack Rick Warren but questions the church-growth methods, selling out the Word of God,

what is done with "resisters," how rock music plays in, and the general state of Evangelicalism today.

But will the Emergent Church overtake the "Purpose-Driven movement?" Jan and DeBruyn conclude that is likely to happen in time. Get the book only at www.frbaptist.org.



June 14, 2008 - Hour 1
Rob Congdon returns to talk about Tony Blair's new ecumenical effort--The Tony Blair Faith Foundation--pressing all religions to get along for the cause of peace.

Even Rick Warren has endorsed this and is on the advisory committee.

They then go into the eschatology or end-time theology of the Emergent movement. One of the clearest presentations of what "Emergent" is all about. We will eventually carry Congdon's book. www.congdon-ministries.com




December 2, 2006 - Hour 1
Author/talk show host Kevin McCullough, four times nominated for "Religious Broadcaster's Talk Show of the Year," speaks with Jan about

defeating liberalism in America and about the Rick Warren/Barack Obama controversy.

McCullough is among many voices saying it was inappropriate to have Obama at the AIDS' conference at Saddleback. He also lists five reasons why he believes Barack Obama will be on the presidential ticket in 2008--and, will win. www.muscleheadrevolution.com



November 18, 2006 - Hour 1

Pastor Bob DeWaay and Jan talk about Rick Warren's recent trip to Syria.

Was this appropriate in light of comments Warren made as a result of his trip? How much freedom and tolerance are in Syria? Very little, in fact, though

Warren insists Syria's Bashir Assad is a man of peace. Facts mixed with fiction or "strong delusion?"

Or, just the furthering of Warren's P.E.A.C.E. plan?



February 11, 2006 - Hour 1
Pastor Bob DeWaay and Jan discuss his new book, "Redefining Christianity: Understanding the Purpose Driven Movement." Pastor DeWaay considers all angles of Rick Warren and all things "purpose driven" believing there is a side to the movement that is not healthy for churches or Christians. www.cicministry.org



February 11, 2006 - Hour 2
Pastor Bob DeWaay and Jan discuss his new book, "Redefining Christianity: Understanding the Purpose Driven Movement."

Pastor DeWaay considers all angles of Rick Warren and all things "purpose driven" believing there is a side to the movement that is not healthy for churches or Christians.




June 21, 2008 - Hour 1
Pastor Bob DeWaay had a personal visit with Pastor Rick Warren in May and Bob gives a report.
DeWaay challenged Warren in several areas.

Jan and DeWaay also discuss the PEACE plan and why efforts like this will fail. We are reminded about what the Bible says about last days' calls for peace.www.cicministry.org


July 11, 2009 - Hour 2

Mike Oppenheimer and Jan discuss Rick Warren's address to the Islamic Society of North America.

What is terribly wrong with this picture? From there they discuss the issue of "judging" and why it is biblical. We should not stop naming names because someone says "we should not touch God's anointed." They issue a cry for discernment and solid pulpit preaching which is scarce today. And, how can you sharpen your discernment? www.letusreason.org



March 5, 2011 - Hour 2
Brannon Howse again warns of ecumenical efforts going on that could play into the hands of a future global religion predicted in Revelation. Joining him is Ingrid Schlueter from Crosstalk Radio.

He informs listeners of John Piper joining hands with Rick Warren and of Warren's plan to honor Tony Blair at Saddleback Church.
Blair is in the forefront of ecumenical efforts with his Tony Blair Foundation. What is a "religious Trojan horse?" What is a "Fabian Socialist?" And why is Tony Blair's foundation so dangerous to Christians? Schlueter and Howse also review the danger of three occultists at Warren's Saddleback Church for all of 2011. www.crosstalkblog.com Or Brannon Howse www.worldviewweekend.com



March 12, 2011 - Hour 1
Jan Markell returns this hour as host and replies to the critics of last week's hour two. Some felt that guest host Brannon Howse and his guest, Ingrid Schlueter, were much too hard on Pastor John Piper and even too hard on Rick Warren. Yet Warren is allowing occultists into his church and John Piper will take hundreds or thousands of the Desiring God followers to Saddleback this spring. Jan gives an update, talks about the response, presents another side to the story, and asks prayer for all involved, particularly Piper and Warren. Jan then talks to Jim Fletcher from Flashpoint 2012: Is it the End of the World as We Know it? No, because too much has to happen yet! They discuss some of the end-time apostasy going on and also the religious Left's target of Israel. You can purchase the book here. It has many contributors writing about current issues of the day. Jan Markell is one contributor. www.prophecymatters.com



February 12, 2011 - Hour 1
Jan talks to Jennifer Pekich who attended Rick Warren's "health seminar" led by three blatant New Agers. In fact, Dr. Oz wants to hypnotize America. But she heard buzz words which troubled her such as "sustainable living." These were U.N. rooted terms used by the doctors. She heard about U.N. Agenda 21, globalism, and more, begging the questions, is Rick Warren in agreement with these doctors and their not-so-hidden agenda? Since all of this continues, we must conclude Warren is in favor of this and his global PEACE plan fits in with the global agenda of the doctors. The spiritual health of Saddleback attendees is clearly at stake. Hear the original program announcing the Warren seminar with radio guest Caryl Matrisciana, posted to "Radio Archives" for January 22. http://ponderingsfrompatmos.blogspot.com/




January 22, 2011 - Hour 1
Caryl Matrisciana and Jan look into "The Daniel Plan" being kicked off by Saddleback Church and Rick Warren. Jan and Caryl expose the real danger behind this effort featuring three doctors who specialize in all things Eastern. Why is "America's Pastor" featuring a "Daniel Plan" that includes meditation, Reiki, Transcendental Meditation, and more? The health seminar was kicked off January 15, and continues every weekend for the new year. Teachers Dr. Oz, Dr. Hyman, and Dr. Amen come with a lot of baggage but that seems to bother no one because it's a Rick Warren idea. Caryl grew up in India and is in tune with the dangers of Eastern seduction which is on overdrive at Saddleback Church in 2011. www.caryltv.com Caryl's book Out of India can be found here.



February 13, 2010 - Hour 1
Warren Smith and Jan discuss his new book, "A Wonderful Deception." Why must Christianity be reinvented. Do we need a "new kind of Christian?" Why must we attend a "Re-Think" conference and why does one Emergent say "Everything must change?" Rick Warren says we need "A new reformation." What's wrong with that "old time religion?" Jan and Smith also discuss the proposed Department of Peace. Many in the U.S. House have signed on to this. Hear a stunning sound byte on it. Smith was deep into the "New Age" movement years ago and presents insights into today's "new spirituality" better than most. www.lighthousetrails.com then go to "Browse by Author" to find all of Smith's products and bio. For info on The Peace Department: www.thepeacealliance.org



June 12, 2010 - Hour 1
Pastor Bob DeWaay says that the church-growth movement is driving the gospel out of our churches. The church-growth crowd believes the church exists for unbelievers and thus they encourage pastors to make their churches "comfortable" for them, but then they become extremely uncomfortable for true believers. They reference the leaders of the church-growth movement including Rick Warren, Robert Schuller, and others. DeWaay also responds to Pastor John Piper's invitation to Rick Warren at Piper's fall conference. How do today's churches compare to the early church of Bible times? Find DeWaay's book on the Emergent Church here.
www.twincityfellowship.com
www.cicministry.org


November 5, 2011 - Hour 1
Jan interacts with Tom McMahon of Berean Call concerning his new book, Temporal Delusion: Is the Church Destined to be Raptured or to Reign Supreme? Both the social gospel and Kingdom Now Theology propose "fix the earth" solutions but it won't work. They discuss Stearns' troubling, works-oriented Hole in the Gospel social gospel issues, C. Peter Wagner's New Apostolic Reformation, Rick Warren's contribution to this mix, and much more. They also touch on evangelical mysticism, ancient-future heresies and other elements contributing to the delusion of today's church. Find McMahon's book. here.

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July 9, 2011 - Hour 1
Part 1: Jan hosts with guest Kamal Saleem, former Islamic terrorist, now a believer. Their topics range from "Chrislam" in our churches (the uniting of Muslims and Christians), to our purpose in Libya, to the real reasons behind the so-called "Arab spring." They also examine the Muslim Brotherhood which is getting a pass in the Obama administration when their goal, in fact, is global Sharia Law. They are behind much of the turmoil in the Middle East. Back to "Chrislam" -- even Jack Van Impe has been tossed by TBN because he wants to tell the truth about Islam but is not allowed to on the network. Kamal closes the two hours by sharing his amazing testimony for 20 minutes. www.koomeministries.com



July 9, 2011 - Hour 2
Part 2: Jan hosts with guest Kamal Saleem, former Islamic terrorist, now a believer. Their topics range from "Chrislam" in our churches (the uniting of Muslims and Christians), to our purpose in Libya, to the real reasons behind the so-called "Arab spring." They also examine the Muslim Brotherhood, which is getting a pass in the Obama administration when their goal, in fact, is global Sharia Law. They are behind much of the turmoil in the Middle East. Back to "Chrislam" -- even Jack Van Impe has been tossed by TBN because he wants to tell the truth about Islam but is not allowed to on the network. Kamal closes the two hours by sharing his amazing testimony for 20 minutes. www.koomeministries.com


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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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Disclaimer: Rapture Bible Prophecy Forum, ( http://www.rapturebibleprophecyforum.com ) does not necessarily endorse or agree with every opinion expressed in every article posted on this site. We do however, encourage a healthy and friendly debate on the issues of our day. Whether you agree or disagree, we encourage you to post your feedback by using the reply button.

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