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"I find it interesting that people pop up on Rapture forums to say Obama is not the antichrist"


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"I find it interesting that people pop up on Rapture forums to say Obama is not the antichrist"

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Just wondering why people pop out of the woodwork to say that Obama is not the antichrist....when clearly the Lord has revealed it to people in dreams, visions, the Bible code, etc. The place where Obama's name in the Bible Code appears is REVELATION 13:1.

Anyways, I do not think that rapture forums is a place to argue whether or not you believe in the rapture, who the antichrist is or is not, etc. Either you believe or you don't. But not to come on the forum and call people silly and tell us to read our Bibles. Clearly, that is what we have been doing 3 hours a day for years. As well as fasting, praying, ridding our homes of anything questionable the Lord asks, ministering, praying, and making videos and Bible studies, attending church and worshiping the Lord. Anyways, those that seek the Lord with their heart and soul, He reveals things to and you cannot contain Jesus in a box. He is going to share things with people and that the son of perdition has been revealed.

Clearly, the owner of this forum has his studies posted that Obama is the one and I was led here. I had the Lord tell me the day that Obama won the election that "and they too shall worship the antichrist for they were deceived." At that moment I knew it was him and I got a cold fearful chill down my spine. While everyone was crying and dancing Obama was elected I saw the face of Hitler and their hands going up to follow him blindly. That was the moment that my whole world changed and I was thrust into a mighty supernatural realm of God. Remember, Obama is still a man, and has not had the fullness of his supernatural reign come in like Hitler. Hitler rose to power after a currency failure, hyperinflation, and the fact that Germany owed the USA so much money they could not pay. In most societies of the past, a country that was the debtor that could not pay would become a military might and then strike. America's currency is failing and the price of gold is substantial and we owe China so much money as well.

Should we put our heads in the sand and say Obama is just a person and that it is not the time of the end and we still have another 10 years so we can go and drink, eat and be merry? Obama is mimicking Hitler and remember that WWII lasted 7 years which was a mirror of the tribulation............what has happened from 12/21/2010 under the blood moon that Obama's administration signed the repeal of the Don't ask Don't tell law and Joe Biden said this repeal would lead to gay marriage....and how in the Talmud the only time that gay marriage was EVER allowed on the face of the earth was during Noah's time and Jesus said that His return would be like the days of Noah....the year of 2011 in the Mazzaroth is the rise of the antichrist.....Obama is mirroring Hitler with the Pink Swastikas (gays) in the military, homosexuality, the Nazi Brown shirts/SA/Storm Troopers (TSA and Homeland Security). We cannot ignore the Bible, we cannot ignore historic parallels, we cannot ignore the Mazzaroth, we cannot ignore the prophets of the past, and we cannot ignore the voice of the Holy Spirit.

If you don't believe Obama is the one, then you can just not think about it because you will drive yourself nuts trying to figure it out. Best just think about being holy and blameless for the rapture since you won't be here anyways. Maybe the Lord did not share this information with you on who it is because He wants to give you other information to the puzzle on a different level.

http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id12.html



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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.


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Ola Ilori (26 Oct 2011)
"GREAT POST NICOLE !"


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Hi Nicole,

There are so many Christians in this very late hour that don't have the perception that Obama is indeed the Antichrist foretold in Scripture.

It means they have not developed the perception to see him as he really is.

This is not a save place to be in these last days.

For it means they are more likely to embrace what they should reject and reject what they should embrace.

This is what happened when the Messiah was revealed to the Jewish people in 30 AD.

The Saducees and Pharisees thought they new the Torah inside out. Surely when the Messiah comes they should be the ones to reveal Him to the people.

So they thought - how wrong they were!

When the Lord appeared amongst them, they rejected and crucified Him.

And yet it was the poor, the uneducated, the harlots and the sinners that accepted Him as their Messiah!

And so it is today, millions of Christians in America accepted Obama with open arms. Many Pastors got their congregations to vote for him - they had know perception of who he is!

They are going to pay a very heavy price for betraying our Lord and God, Jesus Christ!

And yet, just like in 30 AD, it's the "uneducated", the poor and the repentant sinners , who are sounding the alarm on who Obama really is!

Is anybody listening? I'm afraid not.

By the time the World realises who Obama really is, it will be too late.

The rapture would have happened and the Great Tribulation would have begun!

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2011/nicole1025-4.htm

Ola.

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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.


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Frank R Molver (26 Oct 2011)
"Nicole re attacks on Christians re Obama etc"

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I would have to agree
Recently I had to take down an email account because of an attack that had some virus that attacked people on my email list with perverted stuff.
I know it was to make me look like a hypocrite in my faith
This what we should expect and even though it might be inconvenient we have to tighten up our communication and trim our email list
My gmail account seems pretty good so far

BTW your link to the Obama article was blocked
Do you have another?


http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2011/nicole1025-4.htm

Just wondering why people pop out of the woodwork to say that Obama is not the antichrist....when clearly the Lord has revealed it to people in dreams, visions, the Bible code, etc. The place where Obama's name in the Bible Code appears is REVELATION 13:1.

Anyways, I do not think that rapture forums is a place to argue whether or not you believe in the rapture, who the antichrist is or is not, etc. Either you believe or you don't. But not to come on the forum and call people silly and tell us to read our Bibles. Clearly, that is what we have been doing 3 hours a day for years. As well as fasting, praying, ridding our homes of anything questionable the Lord asks, ministering, praying, and making videos and Bible studies, attending church and worshiping the Lord. Anyways, those that seek the Lord with their heart and soul, He reveals things to and you cannot contain Jesus in a box. He is going to share things with people and that the son of perdition has been revealed.

Clearly, the owner of this forum has his studies posted that Obama is the one and I was led here. I had the Lord tell me the day that Obama won the election that "and they too shall worship the antichrist for they were deceived." At that moment I knew it was him and I got a cold fearful chill down my spine. While everyone was crying and dancing Obama was elected I saw the face of Hitler and their hands going up to follow him blindly. That was the moment that my whole world changed and I was thrust into a mighty supernatural realm of God. Remember, Obama is still a man, and has not had the fullness of his supernatural reign come in like Hitler. Hitler rose to power after a currency failure, hyperinflation, and the fact that Germany owed the USA so much money they could not pay. In most societies of the past, a country that was the debtor that could not pay would become a military might and then strike. America's currency is failing and the price of gold is substantial and we owe China so much money as well.

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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.


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Rene (26 Oct 2011)
"More Proof that B.O. is the Antichrist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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For those of you who don't believe that BO is the AC, you need to watch this video -
and see his series on 11-11-11 and the series on "This is IT" - amazing. Also, see his
"Sound the Alarm" series and the "Mystery Solved" series. He says that there may
be a red flag on 11-11-11 and NOW we know that our government is planning a nationwide
emergency alert and that they will be shutting down all radio stations and all TV stations
at that time (and what about the internet and cell phone towers?) What happens when
WE are totally at their mercy and we can no longer communicate with even our own
family members??? He says that the next step to announce the "birthing" of the NWO
is that they plan to blow up Hoover Dam. If you do a google earth search and look at Hoover Dam and see this man's series on Hoover Dam, you will see that it is full of statues of demonic angels and figures and the number ELEVEN is EVERYWHERE!!!! God is using
some real "characters" to warn his flock in these very last minutes of these very last days!!! I visited that dam as a tourist when I was about 12 or 13 and I remember how awestruck I was at the vastness of that man-made monument - a monument to the NWO!

http://www.youtube.com/thejonathankleck#p/u/18/gavQSf8dS4w



All seeing eye and Obama at ground zero = new species




Also, ask yourself this, WHY did B.O. pick Psalm 46 to read on 9-11-11?
(By the way this man's name, "Johathan Kleck" means "Yahweh has given a Bell Ringer." he is sounding the ALARM. He has put his life at risk to bring this series.)

Rene

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A Little Discomfort My Foot!

By Grant Phillips


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Have you ever been to a doctor or dentist and they say, “There may be a little discomfort”? Yeah right! Discomfort my foot! When they say that, we’re talking “PAIN”. Now if they say, “There may be a little pain”, then you had better hold on to something, because you’re probably in for an experience. I think we have all been there, but if not, well …….

So much is said today about the Tribulation period, I wonder if we have become too accustomed to the terminology and have forgotten about the seriousness of what will take place.

For those of us especially who live in a free world, the shock is going to be catastrophic for those who are left behind after the Rapture of the Church by the Lord Jesus Christ. We are not accustomed to not having the freedom to live as we please. For example, is it possible that those left behind in this country would not be able to travel as they choose, vote as they wish, buy what they like, live where they want, say what is on their mind, or speak out against those who are in charge of affairs?

What kind of America would it be for those then living in a police state? We in this country would be appalled if someone from another country told us what we can and cannot do, and hauled us into a world court if we didn’t obey, but it is going to happen. Yes, right here in the good old US of A.

In our country, even the poorest among us would be rich in many other areas of the world. During the Tribulation, most everyone, except the very wealthy, will discover what it is like to be truly poor. You think it’s hard to get a job now, it will be worse then. Forget the free handouts too that come from the working stiffs. They won’t be there. You think the economy is bad now. These will be the glory days during that time, days you will look back on with a longing in your heart to return to.

How about the politicians we are blessed with today? Yeah, I know most of them (not all) are rich, immoral, greedy windbags who are destroying everything the great founders of this country established. However, I don’t think we have seen the total depravity of man, until the Tribulation introduces the politicians of that soon to be era (Maybe it will be the same ones, just worse than what they are now). When the world ruler comes on the scene, the Antichrist, it will all sound great at first, then all hell will break loose on this earth.

All I have stated thus far would certainly be more than “a little discomfort”, but that’s not all.

When wars, earthquakes, volcanoes, tornadoes, floods, and starvation, are practically a daily occurrence, and the heavens are falling apart, real “discomfort” will introduce itself. Animals (the four-legged and two-legged kind) will prey upon people, possibly for food. Thieves and murderers will thrive. No place will be a safe haven.

Families, friends and neighbors will turn upon each other to survive. Sons and daughters will be sent off to wars whether you, or they, like it or not. Houses, businesses, and other possessions will be lost or confiscated.

Laws will be legislated that will control every move one makes, in other words, every facet of one’s life. Yeah, I know. It’s bad enough now, but this is still easy street.

Many people today have hardened their hearts to the warnings of God concerning what is about to happen on this earth. The Rapture is laughed off, even by so called Christians. The Tribulation is often discussed, but obviously not expected, or there would be a stampede of people rushing to the cross of Christ.

My dear friends, the Tribulation period is going to be far more than just a little discomfort. It is going to be downright painful, especially the last 3 ½ years. I have done no justice in clarifying the extreme of this horrible period. I have chosen only to give an eye-dropper’s taste of what is to be expected. The full dose will be administered upon arrival.

In 2 Kings 20:1 and Isaiah 38:1, Isaiah warns Hezekiah to get his house in order, because he is going to die. How many of us need to get our house in order? After Hezekiah’s gut-wrenching prayer to God for mercy, God gave him 15 more years to live. How much more time is God going to give this world before He brings judgment down upon it? I don’t know, but as of right now, there is time. How much time though? Could it be years, or months, or days, or even minutes?

Why did God give Hezekiah 15 more years to live? The third verse of Isaiah 38 says, “Remember, O LORD, how I have always been faithful to you and have served you single-mindedly, always doing what pleases you. Then he broke down and wept bitterly.” (Isaiah 38:3 NLT)

This king was actually living for God, so God granted him additional years to live. How many in this world today could truthfully apply that prayer to their lives? My guess is, not many.

As rotten as this world is today, God is giving us time to come to Him through His Son Jesus. Possibly very soon, many are going to face either death or the beginning of the Tribulation. If you have Jesus in your heart, there is no fear of death, “O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.” (1 Corinthians 15:55-56) If you have Jesus in your heart, you will not be around for the Tribulation. You will be in Heaven with the Lord Jesus Christ.

I believe that in just the weather patterns alone, God is warning us to get our house in order. Yes, I actually do believe these are warnings. Are we listening? I also believe that the warnings are going to worsen, until God decides the warnings have come to an end. Then it will be time to give the world what it wants; i.e. a world without God (Holy Spirit – will be limited), and the Church (true Christians). It will be the time of Jacob’s trouble for Israel, and judgment upon a godless earth.

Please read 1 Samuel 8:1-22. The people of Israel went to Samuel demanding a king to reign over them. God was very upset because they rejected His leadership. He told Samuel to give them a king and tell them what to expect from their new king. They still wanted their king, and they got him. His name was Saul.

People today want a new king. They too reject the leadership of God. Therefore, God is going to give this world a king like it has never seen before. He is called the Antichrist, and his reign is going to provide more than just “a little discomfort”.



Grant Phillips
grantphillips@windstream.net

Pre-Rapture Commentary

http://grant-phillips.blogspot.com



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Pastor predicted the rise of Barack Obama as the Antichrist way back in 1970 !!!



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Re: "I find it interesting that people pop up on Rapture forums to say Obama is not the antichrist"

Steven and Nicole when I still believed tribulation is seven years length I didn't believe O is the AC. But since now is pretty sure that the theory of tribulation 7 years length is debunked because nothing is happening during the last feast days in 2011 then what left is the only 3.5 years tribulation which will I hold till mid or end of 2012 because by that time the rapture doesn't happen again then, that means 2014/2015 maybe it's not the right time for the coming of Yahshua which means the 7 year trib can alive again and likewise O is not the AC can alive again. Meanwhile I hold the trib only 3.5 years especially after the RH. That means I hold also to what Rossenberg told about 2008 as the "crucial point in time" and how the time O spoke to the public in October 2008 was also important date as well as his inauguration day. I guess we would know it very soon. Everything so far is in accordance to the trib is only 3.5 years length and not 7 years and that the first 3.5 years might have already happen around 2000 years ago (see Steven's post regarding Daniel 9).
Keep looking up, our redemption is really near now.

Re: "I find it interesting that people pop up on Rapture forums to say Obama is not the antichrist"

Hi Gimel,

Thanks for your thoughts and comments.


Your thoughts are WHY this is an OPEN FORUM.

I really think it is too early to know what "TRIBULATION POSITION IS CORRECT".

No offense to ANYONE but I think it is "arrogant to think" that "WE HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT".

The bible is very deep and very difficult to "acertain" it completely to think "WE HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS" and everyone else is wrong.

Through the HOLY SPIRIT we can pray for "REVELATION, ILLUMINATION, UNDERSTANDING AND WISDOM"

Then we must TRUST GOD THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT to reveal the hidden mysteries in HIS TIME.

Thank you for all your wonderful comments, thoughts, contributions and fellowship on this site!!!



God Bless


KEEP LOOKING UP!!!


MARANATHA!!!


ybic


Steven

On one hand the bible is very SIMPLE: JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER.

But bible prophecy is still coming into focus daily that what we thought before is not what we think now.

Example:

1.Prior to Israel becoming a nation people did not think Israel would become a nation again.

2. Prior to the revelation Mark Biltz gave about the "hebrew calendar , solar/lunar eclipses on the 'FEAST OF THE LORD" many of the prophecies were still hidden to many before this knowledge of the bible was revealed.



Re: "I find it interesting that people pop up on Rapture forums to say Obama is not the antichrist"

You right Steven, and because people didn't believe Israel could become a nation again, Church came into being as "Israel" in the end time known as Replacement Theology. At that time, people accepted this as a true meaning of the Bible prophecy because no Israel existed in those days. Today? Some still believe Israel is not Israel as in the Bible, stubbornly support replacement theology because politically it means: no right to exist for Israel, Palestinian should replace Israel, Israel was wrong since the beginning of its creation.
My position? I am against replacement theology, implication: I believe Israel now is Israel prophesied in the Bible, coming from the 4 corners of the earth, right to exist for Israel, Israel is right so YHWH is right and all others are wrong who against Israel.

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I am not convinced that Barak Obama or any other man is the anti christ. I believe the anti christ is the beast described in Revelation, chapter 13. If you want an in depth teaching on this, put the name Patrick Heron in your search window and hit enter. He explains it well.

The anti christ will be a supernatural being and he is probably chained in darkness inside the earth, and has been since the time of Noah, and he will be released at the appropriate time to do all of his signs and wonders and have the world marvel after him.

It really doesn't matter since we will not be here to see the anti christ, but if interested, take a listen to Patrick and get the scoop.
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Frank R Molver (28 Oct 2011)
"Hmmm, April 2012 Pope may resign+April 2012 Obama trick"

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http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/homepage/news/detail/articolo/papa-el-papa-pope-dimissioni-resignation-renuncia-8389/

Could this next one be the last pope prophesied of by St Malachi?

Do you recall the word or words shared here re Obama doing something April 2012 to ensure his re election
Can't find that right now but Ron Reese and others have pointed to that
There was also a word about a fake assassinations

If that is the case then perhaps it would be the mid trib.


http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2011/billg617.htm
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Bill Griese (17 June 2010)
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I agree with Ron Reese: Barack Obama, the King of Babylon, received his crown at the beginning of the 70th week in the Fall of 2008
Rev 6:1-2 NKJV "Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, "Come and see." And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer."

The Antichrist, "the prince who is to come" of Dan 9:26, receives a crown at the beginning of the 70th week. A crown denotes his becoming a King, and I believe specifically he's the end-time "King of Babylon" who will become indwelt by Lucifer (Satan) according to Isaiah chapters 13 & 14. The timing of his being indwelt will be at the Midpoint of the 70th week, following Lucifer (Satan) permanently being cast out of heaven to the earth (Rev 12:7-17), and immediately preceding the Abomination of Desolation in Jerusalem. Isaiah 13 links directly to the "day of the Lord", so it can't be referring to ancient Babylon. Isa 13:10 links the timing of Babylon's destruction to the Sixth Seal, and Isa 13:13 to the day of God's Wrath.
(Please see my Dec 4, 2010 post: Isaiah Identifies the 'King of Babylon' as the Antichrist )

America is the end-time "mystery" Babylon http://www.americathebabylon.com/exerpts.shtmlTherefore, I believe that the Antichrist must be a President of the United States, and even more specifically, is none other than Barack Hussein Obama, the current usurper-in-chief. The U.S. Constitution only has two qualification requirements for the office of President. First, is having attained age 35, and the second is being a Natural-Born U.S. citizen, which Mr. Obama is not. Scripture tells us in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 that the Antichrist is the "Lawless One".

2 Thess 2:8-12 NKJV "And then the lawless one will be revealed (at Midpoint, Abomination of Desolation), whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the [lawless one] is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie (that Antichrist is the Messiah and God), that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

Dr. Richard Wills has posted here on Obama's ancestry tracing it back to Judean Princess Tea Tephi and from there back to King David and Bathsheba. This ancestry of Obama is a must to give credence to Antichrist's coming Messiah of Israel claims. Obama is also descended from Antiochus IV Epiphanes, the Syrian King who desecrated the Jewish Temple (Dan 11:21-35).
Disclaimer: Dr. Wills is Pre-Trib and hasn't endorsed this post. Link: Genealogy of BHO

Kevin Heckle posted on June 7, 2011 that sitting U.S. President Barack Obama must be considered the "King of Babylon" by virtue of the military conquest and the occupation of Iraq (ancient Babylon) by the United States. I agree. Right now, there is absolutely no one else this can fit. Therefore, Barack Obama is now the "King of Babylon" by two different reckonings.

Israel recaptured Jerusalem during the 6 Day War on June 7, 1967. This occurred in the first year of a 49 year Sabbatical cycle that started in the Fall of 1966 and will end in the Fall of 2015. A prophetic year is 360 days. (360 days X 49 years = 17,640 days) It is exactly 17,640 days between June 7, 1967 and Sept 23, 2015 which is Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. Sept 23, 2015 is the very date that a Jubilee year would need to be declared. A Jubilee year must be announced on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement following a 49 year Sabbatical cycle. Modern Israel has not yet kept a Jubilee year. The language describing the first year of the Millennium certainly sounds like a Jubilee year. (All land is returned to the original owners, the 12 tribes, and this would be the legal basis for God doing so). Many, including Brother Ron Reese, and myself, believe Christ will physically return to earth on Yom Kippur, Sept 23, 2015 and announce the Jubilee year to start during the first year of the Millennium.

Using Yom Kippur, Sept 23, 2015 as an anchor date for Christ's return to earth, we can subtract 1260 days (360 days X 3.5 years, i.e. time, times and half-a-time) for the Great Tribulation, and we come to the Midpoint, April 11, 2012, the date of the Abomination of Desolation. Antichrist, indwelt by Satan, will go to the temple mount in Jerusalem, stop Jewish worship, and proclaim himself Messiah and God per 2nd Thess 2:1-4.

It is interesting to note that the very date of April 11th has been marked in the skies in recent history by three separate comets. Halley's Comet came closest to earth on April 11, 1986. Also, Comet Hyatuke on April 11, 1996, and Comet Hale-Bopp on April 11, 1997 crossed the same coordinates in the sky, both on April 11th in what could only be termed a rare event.
Ron Reese has posted on this. Link: GREAT TRIBULATION STARTS APR. 11, 2012

From the Midpoint of the 70th week, April 11, 2012, we can subtract another 1260 days to arrive at October 29, 2008. This date is 2,520 days (360 days x 7 yrs.) before Sept 23, 2015 and 1260 days (360 days x 3.5 yrs.) before April 11, 2012. Dan 9:27 "And he (Antichrist) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week." On October 29, 2008 at 8:00 pm EST, Barack Obama went on prime time nationwide TV, with news excerpts worldwide and made a covenant (which means a promise) to bring "Hope and Change" not only to America, but also, to the whole world. This event was enough to fulfill Daniel 9:27 and happened on the exact day required by a Yom Kippur, Sept 23, 2015 Second Coming of Christ to earth. His covenant was accepted by "the many" (overwhelmingly by the Jewish population) and then he was voted into power and the fulfillment the First Seal of Revelation 6:1-2 began. Need I remind anyone of all the Messiah rhetoric that accompanied his rise to power. He then continued the conquering by appointing Czars, who report directly to him and are outside of the supervision of the people's elected representatives in Congress. And then came Obamacare, with all its draconian provisions for control.

Brother Kevin Heckle is a skilled astronomer and he discovered and posted back on Dec 14, 2009 that this exact date and time of October 29, 2008 at 8:00 pm EST is marked in the skies by an unusual astronomical event that fulfills scripture in both Revelation chapters 12 and 13 describing Satan, and the Beast that rises up out of the Sea, which is the Antichrist. The signs in the sky link the Antichrist directly to Barack Obama, and his covenant date.
Link: http://www.fivedoves.com/ac/kevinh1214.htm

Dan 9:27 NKJV "Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week (the 70th week); But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate."

Dan 9:27 says “covenant” which is a promise, but not necessarily a peace treaty, so a peace treaty is not required by the text on this date. A peace treaty could follow later. Unfortunately, the majority have missed the significance of October 29, 2008 because of the pure assumption that Daniel 9:27 requires a peace treaty. They have missed the fulfillment of the exact date required for the completion of the 49 year Sabbatical cycle and the Jubilee year being declared on Yom Kippur, Sept 23, 2015.

I believe we are now only 10 months away from the Abomination of Desolation on April 11, 2012. All born-again believers will escape God's Wrath by the Sixth Seal "Pre-wrath" Rapture (Rev 7:9-17), before His wrath begins at the opening of the Seventh Seal, after the silence in heaven for half-an-hour. However, those believers found obeying the Lord's instructions to repent, watch, and pray always will be deemed "worthy to escape" the great tribulation of Antichrist by the earlier "Open Door" Rapture (Rev 3:7-13). In Revelation chapters 2 & 3, the Philadelphia and Smyrna churches were the ones not told they needed to repent. Philadelphia was told they would escape tribulation, and Smyrna was told they would have tribulation "ten days". The other churches of Revelation were told that if they did not repent, they would have tribulation, which is the great tribulation of Antichrist that begins at the midpoint of the 70th week and precedes the Wrath of God. The great tribulation will be "shortened" for the "elect's sake" per Matt 24:22, and then the "Prewrath" Rapture occurs in Matt 24:29-31 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

Luke 21:34-36 NKJV "But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man."

YBIC,

Bill Griese




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Obama Led Chicago Street Riots In 1980′s To Intimidate Business Owners
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Power to the people, sort of…
Just twenty or so years ago, Barack Obama wouldn’t just have supported the Occupy protests. He would have organized them.
Obama at anti-war protest, 2002 (Source: Verum Serum)
From Stanley Kurtz’s essential Radical-in-Chief: Barack Obama and the Untold Story of American Socialism, pp. 117-8:

In fact, Obama personally helped plan one of UNO’s most confrontational actions of the eighties [in 1988]: a break-in meant to intimidate a coalition of local business and neighborhood leaders into dropping a landfill expansion deal.
We know of Obama’s involvement in this demonstration only because his supporters in 2008 felt it necessary to rebut charges that, contrary to his claims of inter-racial healing, he had organized exclusively with blacks. Only then did Obama’s former colleagues from UNO [United Neighborhood Organization, a largely Mexican group] of Chicago reveal that he had helped to plan and lead this multi-ethnic demonstration against landfill expansion on Chicago’s South Side.
…Shouting “No deals!” somewhere between eighty and a hundred UNO-DCP [Developing Communities Project, a black group organized by Obama] marched to a local bank. There they broke into a meeting being conducted by the bank president and local community leaders. The group was exploring the possibility of a deal with Waste Management. The protestors, presumably including Obama, surrounded the meeting table while [Mary-Ellen] Montes [of UNO] told the negotiators, “We will fight you every step of the way.”

Obama was also likely involved with other aggressive UNO protests, including protests for school reform, through which he likely met former Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers. Ayers is involved in the Occupy protests today.
In the 1990s, Obama maintained his ties to radical activists, and “channel[ed] foundation funding to his confrontational Alinskyite colleagues.”
It’s clear that Obama’s ties to the Occupy movement–its forbears, its tactics, and some of its current luminaries–run deep.
This is what “community organizing” looks like. source – Big Government




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John B (29 Oct 2011)
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Doves,

If you take God's Word as fact then Obama is not the antichrist. And I believe that after presenting you with the facts from scripture that you will come to the same conclusion I did---Obama is not the antichrist. Deception seems to me to be running rampant concerning this topic. Let me present the facts and you draw your own conclusion.

Staying within the Book of Revelation, what do we know about this first beast we have named the antichrist? We know that from Revelation 13 that---


1) He literally or figuratively rises up out of the sea.

2) He literally or figuratively has seven heads and ten horns and on these ten horns are ten crowns and on his heads a blasphemous name.

3) He literally or figuratively was like a leopard, had feet like a bear and a mouth like a lion.

4) One of his literal or figurative heads was mortally wounded and that deadly wound was healed.

5) The whole world at some point marveled at and followed this beast.

6) The dragon (Satan) gave authority (great powers) to the beast. (God's word says they are one and the same---"So they worshipped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast--)

7) He was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies and he was given authority to continue with these blasphemies for 42 months.

Then, after 42 months he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven.

9) It was granted to him to make war with the saints and overcome them.

10) Authority was given to him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. All who dwell on the earth will worship him except those whose names have been written in the Book of Life.


We know from Revelation 17 that----


11) Here this beast with seven heads and ten horns (same beast as in Rev.13) is portrayed literally or figuratively as a scarlet beast.

12) He is working in an evil concert with a global organization figurative portrayed as a woman (more on the woman later)

13) He this beast was (alive), and is not (he died), and will ascend out of the bottomless pit (to appear to be alive again) and go to perdition (ruin, ****ation, hell) at the end of his rein. And as in chapter 13 all the world will marvel (be completely sucked in and deceived) except those whose names were written in the Book of Life when they see the beast that was (alive), and is not, (he died) and yet is. (alive again)

14) The seven heads of this beast represent seven kings.

15)Then we find out that this beast is one of the seven kings. God also gives us a riddle about these kings to further help us distinguish who this beast is. When John the writer of Revelation saw this vision of the kings he said, "Five have fallen, (died) one is,(the king John was focused on) and the other is yet to come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eight, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.

16) Then we find out that the ten horns of this beast represent 10 kings who have no kingdom yet, but will receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. They will be of "one mind" and will give their power and authority to the beast.



This is most of the description God has given us in Revelation about the first beast, the one we call the antichrist. Keep in mind that God doesn't lie, so Obama would have to fulfill all of these 16 descriptions above completely without error to be the antichrist. And whereas Obama could be a fit for many of the descriptions or attributes he is not a match for several of them which means he cannot possibly be the beast of whom we speak but quit possibly he is part of the deception. Besides, Obama is much too obvious a candidate so how could he deceive the majority of the planet as God has stated?


After much study and I believe Godly discernment there is someone I believe who perfectly fulfills the descriptions God has laid out concerning this coming beast who will marvel the world. And as God has warned us the deception will "suck in" everyone except those whose names are in the Book of Life. What or whom could pull off a deception that would fool the whole world? If you remember God stated twice (which means pay close attention) that the only ones that would pick up on this deception are the ones whose names are written in the Book of Life and the vast majority of those people will be gone in the rapture. Result---great deception easily carried out.


Now let me tell you a story of the near future as I see it that will fulfill the 16 descriptions above and more concerning this coming beast we call the antichrist and how he will pull off the greatest deception ever leveled on mankind.



Soon the rapture will happen and the Book of Life saints will be taken from the planet. I believe this event will be accompanied by a world wide earthquake and great volcanic activity that will prevent the sunlight from getting through (darken the sun) and make the moon appear red like blood. When the raptured saints leave this planet I believe our atmosphere or sky above will roll up like a scroll, maybe as we enter another dimension.

Extreme chaos and great fear will be the order of the day and the whole left behind world will be looking for answers. Scripture says that our world leaders will be hiding in caves petrified by fear of what is happening on the planet. Out of this chaos will step the antichrist and he will have all the answers as to what just happened. Because this man and the dragon, Satan, are one and the same, he will be able to perform great signs, wonders and miracles to deceive the planet and convince them to follow his every command. ("So they worshipped the dragon, who gave authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast") But the most amazing aspect of all is that this man is someone the whole planet already knows who has apparently just come back from the dead. ("And the whole world marveled"--- "He was, and is not, and yet is".) He was one of seven kings from a kingdom that was established in 1929. He was the sixth king. The present king, the seventh king has now gone missing so he (being back) will be king again, the eighth.

This king (beast) rose up out of the sea---The Holy See. He was mortally wounded when he was king, he was shot but recovered. (remember king is synonymous with head so he doesn't have to be shot in the head, just mortally wounded) He is the head of a world wide organization that encompasses peoples, multitudes, nations and tongues which is portrayed as a woman. And this organization can be identified by it's colors, implements and characteristics. It's primary colors are scarlet and purple. It's implements are golden cups (chalices), gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of precious wood, iron and marble, cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men. It has been characterized over the centuries as being shrouded in mystery. It's system has been known as Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots, and the abominations of the earth. And for murdering millions of true Christians. ("drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus")

This organization has a ruling branch or division that already has the planet split up into ten parts. This branch has had no prior world power but will now be given power by the beast and these ten commanders (horns) will control the planet for a period of time. Their world headquarters will be Rome, Italy. ("And the woman you saw is also a great city which reigns over the earth". "A city built on seven mountains which the woman sits".)

This beast will be a great orator and blasphemer on the world stage and will do so for 42 months. Then, he will open his mouth and blaspheme against God, blaspheme God's name, God's tabernacle, and those that dwell in heaven. My interpretation of this is, that the beast at this point after 42 months will declare himself to be God, tell lies and falsehoods about the true God, about heaven, and about those who dwell in heaven. Now that he has declared himself God he will disallow any religious services on earth to any God but himself. All on earth will be forced to worship him and take his mark or face death. And at this point he will declare war on the earthly believers who believe in the true God and will overcome them.

At some point he and his ten kings will make war with the Lamb (Jesus) and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is the Lord of lords and the King of kings.

Now there is only one person who can fulfill all the descriptions laid out in God's Word that were detailed above and that is Pope John Paul II. He will orchestrate the biggest con job in history when he or his likeness returns from the dead, is indwelled by Satan, uses the Roman Catholic Church to form a one world religion and a one world government, uses the Catholic Jesuits who are aligned with the Masons who have already split the world in ten parts to control the planet under the direction of the beast / antichrist / pope / John Paul II / dragon / satan.

The Word says that on his (beast) head will be a blasphemous name. Remember head means king and in this case also means Pope. So does the Pope have a blasphemous name? The Pope is called the Vicar of Christ on earth, pretty much meaning that he is God on earth. He is not, and I would consider that about as blasphemous as you can get.

If you remember from world history the Vatican was not its own country until 1929 and the kings of that country are the popes. And if you solve God's riddle about these seven kings and the eight king (the one who was mortally wounded) and establish that the woman who rides this beast is the Roman Catholic Church from the many many pointed damming descriptions of said organization. Then it would be more than prudent to also acknowledge and adhere to God's warning concerning this church in Revelation 18 where He says----"Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven and God has remembered her iniquities."

So please don't keep saying Obama is the antichrist----his foot doesn't fit in the slipper

John B



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"Obama not the Anti-christ and England Gives "God's Throne" to Catholics"


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In regard to John B's article about Obama not being the Antichrist. I found the below article regarding England giving "God's Throne" to Rome timely.

"Last Days" Warned Here After England Gives "God's Throne" to Catholics"
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1298625

History repeatly tells us that the Hebrews that were dispersed into all of the world either had to convert or die. They inter-married over-all. These facts of history falls right in line with the article recently posted on Five Doves (so sorry but I do not recall whom wrote it...so sorry) that spoke about the gentiles who have no idea that their roots are Hebrew. When the Lord speaks about coming out of Her, He is speaking about the "Babylonian Queen of Heaven" goddess pagan religion and the politcal system. She, the Queen of Heaven, has had many names depending on the location. She is known as "Mary, the Queen of Heaven, the Mother of God" in Rome and becoming more accepted among Protestans denominations daily. God has a mother????? Jeremiah 44:17 speaks of her and not in a complimentary way but as a warning from God Himself to His people to not bake cakes unto her or have anything to do with her. So, there is no doubt of the identity of the woman that rules the Roman Church. Is she the A/C? No! She is a woman and referred to as a "Harlot". Revelation 17:7 clearly shows us that the Beast carres her. So, she can't be the Anti-Christ but will be used as the one that promotes the Beast and causes the world to wonder after him. With England now giving Rome the seat of "God's Throne", which they believe is the very stone that Jacob rested his head upon as he dreamed about the angels ascending and decending the ladder to heaven, we are seeing events most of us never even imagined would become part of the pieces put together in this Last Days puzzle.

What a time to be alive to see the final touches coming together for the One World Relgion with Rome as the Head. Verses 16-17 of chapter 17 of Revelation tells us that God has put it in the hearts of the 'ten horns' to make her desolate. Since one is taking action against the other, they can't be the same, can they? Satan uses many men/women to create his politcal power but he will use his own son to come out of the Abyss to rule again like he did in Old Babylon. That person is Abaddon. If you go back to Chapter 9, you read about the Star falling down from heaven (Who is it that was the prime Star that led the rebellion and who will soon be thrown out of heaven for good?) The day is coming when he wil be allowed to open the pit with the key given to him and release someone who once lived and ruled (plus the hordes of demons with him). Just as Almighty God has His Only Begotten Son, Satan also has his son/sons. Isaiah 14. Read it all but take note of this portion. Isaiah 14: 15-21 "Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Sheol, to the recesses of the pit. Those who see you will gaze at you, They will ponder over you, saying "Is this the man who made the earth tremble, Who shook kingdoms, Who made the world like a wilderness And overthrew it's cities, Who did not allow his prisoners to go home? All the kings of the nations lie in glory, Each in his own tomb. But you have been cast out of your tomb Like a rejected branch, Clothed with the slain who are pierced with a sword, Who go down to the stones of the pit, Like a trampled corpse. You will not be united with them in burial because you have ruined your country. You have slain your people. May the offspring of evildoers not be mentione forever. Prepare for his sons, a place of slaughter Because of the iniquity of their fathers." Isaiah goes on to plead with God not to allow these off-spring of the Fallen Angels to come back again but the Almight says He will rise against them. verse 22.

I find it interesting that 'he" is cast out of his tomb and will not be allowed to be united with the others. God deals with him as only God can. Final conclusion, the Anti-Christ is a man. He will have the nature of human and Fallen Angel. His scheme is coming to it's end soon.

Gerlinda



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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.


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Re: "I find it interesting that people pop up on Rapture forums to say Obama is not the antichrist

Upon reading this post from a few years ago, the passing of time confirms it more than ever.

Gerlinda

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