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NTEB:The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Of The Church: 7Pt series

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The Chuch Expectantly Waits For The Return Of Jesus




"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the
clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with
these words." 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
But shun profane [and] vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness." 2 Timothy 2: 15,16

Introduction To The Rapture - Part 1 in a Series

There is much more information about this subject than could be contained in a single lesson, no matter how inclusive or exhaustive that lesson might be. So consider this the first in a series dealing with the Rapture, and all it's components, as taught in both the Old and New Testaments. As we go along, I will do my best to include as many topical stories, myths and
legends of the past 100 years that have sprung up about this doctrine. Briefly, here are the four known "schools of thought" as it pertains to the Rapture and it's occurence:
•Pre-Tribulation - The belief that the Rapture of the Church, otherwise known as the Body of Christ, will occur before the 7-year Tribulation period
•Mid-Tribulation - The belief that the Rapture of the Church, otherwise known as the Body of Christ, will occur at the hallfway point of the 7-year Tribulation period, 3.5 years after it starts.
•Post-Tribulation - The belief that the Rapture of the Church, otherwise known as the Body of Christ, will occur after the 7-year Tribulation period
•No Tribulation - The belief that the Rapture of the Church, otherwise known as the Body of Christ,
will not ever occur.

Anyone who has ever taken basic courses in Logic and Probability Outcomes will note that only one of these positions can be correct, as all four of them differ from each other in profound ways. It is also obvious that the NTEB position is that of the Pre-Trib, for reasons that we will expound upon. But we will show, over the course of the series, all four positions, where there are correct and where they lapse into error. At no time will we suggest a date for the Rapture, but will, as the Scripture teaches, show that the general time period can be surmised from current events.

Not all prophecy was meant to be understood by all generations

Jesus tells us in Matthew 24 that these general signs will be seen and understood by those people who found themselves living in that time period. But just as Daniel did not fully understand the words of his own prophecies (for it was not for his time), the Bible never says that these revelations will be equally understood by all generations. Daniel tells us that the words of his prophecy would be shut until the time of the end. That means that they would be genrally unavailable to anyone living outside of the time period they were intended for.



"But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, [even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased." Daniel 12: 4

This is one major reason why there hasn't been a great deal written in the last 2,000 years about the subject until about 100 years ago. They were not living in the time of the end, so the prophecies concerning the Rapture, among others, remained shut to them. But the flood gates, as it were, opened in 1948 when God re-established Israel in their homeland as He said
He would many years ago. It has been well-said that God's time clock of Bible prophecy is Israel, and so it is. The Fig Tree Prophecy by Jesus in Matthew 24 is the spark that gets the ball rollling.


It's a hotly-contested topic, for sure. Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, Post-Trib, No-Trib...from any angle you look at it, there are many differences of opinion on the topic of the Rapture of the Church in the End Days. And the Bible is written in such a way that the reader is led to draw their own conclusions as to what the Bible teaches. God knows your heart, as well as your motivation on a given subject. He will either lead you into Truth, or, will keep you from it. "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned."
This passage from 1 Corinthians 2 shows clearly that unless we are sold out to God, we cannot know what His Word teaches. "But God hath revealed [them] unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God." It is not brainpower which causes us to understand the Bible, but rather a right spirit and a heart that searches after God, and when
we have done that, then God opens our understanding to receive His Truth. And with that, let us begin...



Defining the word "rapture"

The word "rapture" is not found anywhere in the Bible. In 1 Thessolonians 4, we read where Paul says that "we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air". The key phrase here is when Paul say "caught up together". The New Testament was largely written in Greek, and the Greek work that Paul uses in that phrase is the word "harpazo", which means literally "to snatch out", or "to seize". A very apt word to describe how the Lord Jesus will soon pull the believers out of here. After Greek, the Bible was translated into Latin, and that same phrase in Latin uses the word "raptus", or "rapturo", from which we get our English word "rapture". This word is a verb, and denotes action, not simply description.Jesus promises to return for His people, and it's not a secret.

You will note that Paul says that Jesus, when He returns to take us out, does not come all the way down to the earth, butrather comes down only as far as the clouds. The world below will not see Jesus at this time, only those believers who are "caught up" in the clouds to be with Him. There will be nothing "secret" about this event as a). it will be apparent to all those raptured what is happening, and b). the impact and devastation that will be felt by those left behind will be obvious and very immediate. Nothing secret about it, but, those left behind on earth will not see Jesus take us, only the aftermath of that event. Does Jesus say anywhere in the Bible that He will return again for His People?

"Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, [there] ye may be also." John 14: 1-3

Jesus promises us in His Word that there will come a Day when He will personally return and gather the believers and take them to be with Him in Heaven. So at this point in our study we cross off the list those people who say there will be "no rapture", as Jesus Himself as promised us that He will come from us and take us out. To deny this is to deny the clear, revealed teaching of the Bible. The Bible commands us to wait for His return - "For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God; And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, [even] Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come." 1 Thessalonians 1:9,10

Paul wrote about the Rapture so we would not be ignorant of it

Further along in 1 Thessalonians, Paul addresses a topic that was in much debate even in his day regarding the Rapture. Many
people had thought that the Rapture has already happened, and maybe they missed it. They didn't understand the process by which everything would unfold. What would happen to those who had already died before the Rapture? So Paul sets out in chapter 4 of 1 Thessalonians to answer all these questions. Let's break it down bit by bit:

" But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will
God bring with him." 1Thessalonians 4: 13,14

God through Paul here is telling us that, as believers, we are not left to wonder or guess about the final outcome of those who had already died. God promises that Jesus will bring those people up to Heaven as well. That death is not a cause for sorrow,
because we know who holds our future, and that future is certain and secure. Next, he addresses those who will still be alive on earth when Jesus returns.


Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the
midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. Zechariah 14:3,4


"For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:" 1Thessalonians 4: 15,16

Paul uses the phrase "by the word of the Lord" to let us know that this is not just "feel good" rhetoric he is giving us, but it is the very word of the Lord Himself - a promise that one day these things will come to pass. When the Rapture occurs, the dead
in Christ will be the first to go up, and have their souls reunited with their physical, and now glorified bodies. After that the believers who are alive on the earth will be taken up.

"Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1Thessalonians 4: 17

Now the living believers are taken up to join those who had died in faith previously, and Jesus triumphantly returns to Heaven with an enormous body of believers, both Jew and gentile, as His Bride. Paul closes by saying "Wherefore comfort one another with these words." This is said not simply to comfort us but because it's true. A lie is never comforting, and if this Rapture that Paul was laying out was not actually a reality, it would be a deception. And we know that God's Word is always true, and
cannot decieve us.

The Rapture and the Second Coming are two distinct, seperate events

In 1 Thessalonians, we are told that Jesus only returns as far down as the clouds, and pulls His people up to be with Him. Then everyone returns to Heaven. But in the Second Coming, a completely different set of circumstances unfold quite different from that of the Rapture. Revelation 19 tells us that when Jesus returns to the earth in His Second Coming, that it will be an event that everyone worldwide will see all at the same time. There will be be no guessing as to what's happeneing -

"And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God." Revelation 19: 11-15

Now we see Jesus returning to the earth to set up His millenial Kingdom, and who does He return with? It's the people who were raptured back in 1 Thessalonians 4. As you can clearly see in the above-quoted passage, the events of the Rapture and those of the Second Coming are amazingly and markedly different. In the Rapture, believers are called up to the clouds,
in the Second Coming,the clouds break open and everyone watches Jesus return to the earth. Things that are different are not the same. Additionally, speaking of the Rapture, the Bible says "But of that day and hour knoweth no , no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." But about His Second Coming everyone cam know that day, for it will be exactly 1,260 days from the moment that the Antichrist declares himself to be God while sitting the rebuilt Jewish Temple.



It's not mentioned in the Bible...or is it?

Oftentimes, people who make the argument against the Pre-Trib rapture will say, "the Bible does not say anywhere that the Church will be raptured before the Tribulation." And that it correct, it does not state that directly. But, the Bible says many things indirectly that need to be inferred. For example, nowhere in the Bible does it say that we are not to commit abortion. But if we read "Thou shall not kill", we can safely infer that since you would have to kill to abort, that God would be against abortion. But by the same token, no where in the Bible does it say that the Church will go through the Tribulation, either.

The book of Revelation is largely a dcoumentary of the events that will happen during the time of the Tribulation, otherwise known as the Time Of Jacob's Trouble, leading up to the end of the Milliennium. It starts of with an introduction of what you could expect to learn from it:

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John: Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time [is] at hand." Revelation 1: 1-3

Chapter 1 consists mostly of introduction and preamble, while chapter two is addressed to the "seven churches" which represent various dispensations from the time of the cross forward. This continues all the way through till the start of chapter four where an amazing thing happens - John gets raptured.

"After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and [one] sat on the throne." Revelation 4: 1,2

Now, how do we know that what happened to John represents the Rapture? For a variety of reasons, and they are:

•The bible calls John the "disciple that Jesus loved", and by doing so makes John a type or figure of the body of Christ known as the Church.
•The bulk of the first three chapters of Revelation dealt directly with the Church, but after John hears the trumpet and is pulled up to Heaven, no mention of the Church on earth appears anywhere in the rest of the book. The Church is gone and in Heaven.
•The place where John was looking when it happened was up in the clouds, exactly where Paul says Jesus will meet us.
•The last thing John hears is a voice "as it were of a trumpet". Paul says exactly the same thing in
1 Thessalonians 4 that was quoted at the start of the lesson.
•Chapter 5 tells that judgement is about to fall upon the earth, and chapter 6 starts the Tribulation. You will notice that nowhere will you find any reference to the Church on earth, because the Church is up in Heaven watching events unfold.

Next installment: The Prophecy of Daniel's 70 Weeks Explained

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The Prophecy of Daniel's 70 Weeks Explained
Daniel Is The Key That Unlocks The Timeline Of Revelation

The prophecy of the seventy weeks given to Daniel about the End Times

"At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew [thee]; for thou [art] greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision. Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. " Daniel 9: 23-27

The key that unlocks the book of Revelation


So much of what is talked about in the book of the Revelation has it's roots in the Old Testament. And of the Old Testament prophets, there is one that stands out from among the rest. The prophet Daniel was given many direct visions and revelations by God through the angel Gabriel that pertain to the End Times. In fact, he was given so much information that Jesus Himself recommends that we study and understand what Daniel had to say.

"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)" Matthew 24: 15

It's quite telling to note that in all of Matthew 24, the only Old Testament prophet that Jesus quotes in is Daniel. So perhaps there are more nuggets of truth pertaining to the End Times in Daniel's book.


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The above-mentioned chart of Daniel's 70 weeks is very useful because it lays it all out in sequence to make it easier to understand. Drawn by Clarence Larkin, a devout man of God and bible scholar from the 19th century, we can glean much insight from the 'fruits of his labors'. Clicking on the chart will expand it to twice it's size for easy reading. So open up the
chart and let's begin to unravel Daniel's end times prophecy.

Jeremiah gets Daniel rolling with an important prophecy


The explosive 9th chapter of Daniel starts with Daniel doing what we are doing - studying the bible, looking for clues. And that sets up another very important building block of understanding prophecy. We are all 'looking for answers', and where does God say the answers are? In His Word, the bible. Because that's where he put them. It was true for Daniel and it's just as true for us today. So Daniel was studying the book of the prophet Jeremiah when he sees this clue -

"In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem." Daniel 9:2

By reading, believing and then understanding the prophecy of Jeremiah, Daniel was rightly able to determine that he was living in the time that Jeremiah foresaw. (An interesting side note here is as many 'dreams and visions' that Daniel was given by God,
he still needed to read and study the bible.) Daniel, upon reading and realizing that he was living out Jeremiah's prophecy, "sets his face unto the Lord my God" in deep and reverent prayer. The very first thing that he does in prayer is to repent, which is
always the biblical model for getting right with God, and he passionately pouts out his heart to God for not only himslef, but for all his fellow Jews who are being held captive in Babylon at the time. His prayer is both personal and national for Israel. And then
right in the middle of his prayer, the angel Gabriel shows up and blows him away -

"Yea, whiles I [was] speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation. And he informed [me], and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding. At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew [thee]; for thou [art] greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision."
Daniel 9

Understanding what period of time is covered by the 70 weeks.

The angel Gabriel tells him that he has a special message for him, one that will show him the immediate future of Israel, as well as the future of Israel in the end times. Gabriel continues -

"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the
people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. " Daniel 9

Before we continue, we must clarify the meaning of the term '70 weeks'. It was not 70 calendar weeks, but rather it was 70'weeks of years', figuring each day of the 70 weeks as one year. We know this for a variety of reasons. First, the word that was translated as 'weeks' is the word 'heptad', which means a 'group of sevens'. By the context that was given, we come to see that indeed it was meant as years and not days, as we shall soon see. Also note that Gabriel divides up the 70 weeks into 7 weeks,62 weeks, and one week. If you miss that distinction, then you have missed the boat entirely.

This is how the 70 weeks break down:

•The 7 weeks - This 49 year period is the time where the 'commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem' was given. It would take 49 years to accomplish this, and it began in 445 BC.
•The 62 weeks - From the end point on the rebuilding of the walls, until Messiah was to be revealed, it would be 62 weeks, or 434 years.
•The last week - This 7 year period is yet future because God stopped the timeclock when Israel rejected the Messiah and He went to the cross.
Adding the 7 weeks, or 49 years, to the 62 weeks, or 434 years, brings us to a total of exactly 483 from the time that the commandment went forth to rebuild the walls unto the very day, April 2, 30 AD, that Jesus was paraded through the streets of Jerusalem just prior to going to the cross. Note: due to the differences in the calendars, you cannot do the math on the years without first taking into account the different calendars that were used in the past 2,500 years. For an exhaustive breakdown of the 70 weeks, please refer to the left sidebar entitled, The 70 Weeks Explained. Bible scholar Clarence Larkin, who by trade was a mechanical engineer, gives you all the facts and figures you could ever ask for.

The last week, 7 years, is paused and deferred to a point in the future


Amazingly, everything happened precisely as Gabriel had told Daniel that it world. The streets and the walls of Jerusalem were rebuilt in exactly 49 years. And from that day to the day that "Messiah was cut off", a reference to Jesus rejection by His own
people and then execution on the cross, was exactly 434 years. Then, after 483 years of exacting bible prophecy come true, God stops the clock and began the time of 'the great pause'. All through the bible we read where, because of the rejection of Jesus as Messiah, God turned to the gentiles. In the Old Testament this was a great mystery, but in the New Testament that mystery is revealed as the Church. The bible then goes on to say that this is called the 'times of the gentiles' which will end with the Rapture of the Church. At which point, with the Church taken out of the way, God again turns His attention to
the Jews and Israel, and restarts the clock to begin the final week of Daniel's prophecy. Before we continue, allow me to show bible verses which demonstrates the points I just made -

•Jesus rejected by His own people -
"He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were [our] faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted." Isaiah 53: 3,4
"He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not." John 1: 10.11

•God turns to the Gentiles -
"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in." Romans 11: 25
"But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by [them that are] no people, [and] by a foolish nation I will anger you." Romans 10: 19
"Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles." Acts 13: 46

•God turns His attention back to the Jews -
"For if the casting away of them [be] the reconciling of the world, what [shall] the receiving [of them be], but life from the dead?" Romans 11: 15
"And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. " Romans 11: 26
"Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: [and there were] sealed an hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel."
Revelation 7: 3,4
And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. " Zechariah 12: 9-11


They are many, many more verses I could quote to prove my point, but these verses hit the nail right on the head regarding what God said He would and what would happen in the end times. So why all this attention to a week that hasn't even happened yet? Because if you fail to grasp this "missing" or paused week, then every conclusion you come to after that will by necessity be off base. Gabriel was telling Daniel very clearly that there would be 3 divisions of time within the 70 weeks, or 490 years. Paul, in Romans 11: 25, gives us a great clue. He says that the "blindness" of Israel, or the "paused week" would not end until all the gentiles whom God would have to be saved were saved, or "come in" as he puts it. And that it would
be after this "time of the gentiles" that God would restart the timeclock on the last week. At the risk of repeating myself, the times of the gentiles happen during the as yet undetermined period of time that Daniel's 70th week is paused. So far this time period has lasted roughly 2,000 years, but is about to come to an end. What will end the "times of the gentiles" is the Rapture.

There is a time period for the Jews, and for the Gentiles, but they are not the same

Shortly after Jesus went to the cross, and before the New Testament was finished, the event known as the Great Dispersion happened in Israel, when the Romans set fire to Jerusalem and drove the Jews out to live in the "four corners of the earth." This occured in the year 70 AD. And all during this time, the period known as the 'time of the gentiles' is taking place, with the Jews in exile. But Jesus, when asked by His disciples in Matthew 24 about the time of the end days, gave an amazing prophecy of a time in the future when Israel would be restored as a nation, and the true End Times would begin -

"Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer [is] nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, [even] at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Matthew 24: 32-34

Jesus was saying that when you would see Israel regathered, an event prophesied in dozens of places in the Bible, then you would know that that generation would not pass off the scene until all the things He talked about in Matthew 24 were fufilled.
The end times could not of started before May 14, 1948, the day that Israel officially became a nation. Click here to read more on the amazing Fig Tree Prophecy.

Are the Jews still God's chosen people?

Lately, many well-meaning (at least I think they were) Christians have told me that the Jews are no longer God's chosen people because Paul said that we are 'one in Christ'. After making that error in interpretation, they quickly proceed to their next point, namely that since the Jews rejected Jesus, then the Church has become the 'Israel of God', and inherits all the promises made to the Jews and national Israel. This heresy is known as Replacement Theology, the idea that believing Christians 'replace" the Jews in God's sight. This is more than error, it is heresey and very anti-semetic. Click here to read more on the evils and errors of Replacement Theology.


We are now seeing God beginning to plant the ground for the largest revivial that the world has ever seen, which will happen during the Great Tribulation.

The last week of Daniel's prophecy will happen soon

To recap: So far we have gotten a good handle on the 70 weeks of Daniel's prophecy. Events that it predicted have unfolded and occured with uncanny accuracy, as what you would expect with God-given bible prophecy. We know that Daniel's last week, when it happens will, as Paul says, open the eyes of the Jews and they will finally see, as a nation and not just as a remnant, that Jesus - Yeshua Ha'Maschaich - is indeed the promised Messiah of the Old Testament. And we also know through Scripture that the "times of the Gentiles" must end before the last paused week of Daniel's prophecy can start. There are things that God has promised to the Jews and Israel - namely an eternal homeland in Israel - and there are things that God has promised to the Church - namely an Heavenly eternal existence. If you don't see that the two are seperate, that God has two different plans to work out, then the timing of when the Rapture happens - Pre, Mid or Post Tribulation - will remain a mystery to you, or worse, you will wind up placing it in the wrong time slot. I cannot stress more strongly that a careful study of Romans 9-12 will go a long way towards getting your mind set to see that the "times of the Gentiles", the Church, must end before the last week of Daniel's prophecy can begin.



When you understand that the Church has to be taken out of the way before God can start the last week of Daniel's prophecy, everything starts to make sense. Else, how could the Antichrist rise to power and fool everyone if the world is filled with bible-believing Jesus followers? It couldn't happen. But if you imagine the utter devastation that would be caused by removing all bible-believers at the same time, you can clearly see that in the ensuing chaos it would create the perfect time and space for a great deceiver to rise and fool the people as to the true nature of what happened, and explain away the Rapture. Remember that from the moment that God raptures out the church, there will not be one bible believer left on the face of the earth. Not a single one. It's at this point that God starts the timeclock again, raises up 144,000 Jews in Israel to take the Gospel around the world one more time, and in perfect poetic harmony the bible ends where it began - with the Jews in Israel. The Pre-Tribulation Rapture is the only one of the three positions that allows for this to happen. In a Mid-Trib situation, the church is still on the earth, and therefore the Antichrist cannot rise, and if he did he wouldn't fool anyone. The Left Behind book series sold nearly 70,000,000 copies, and at a minimum that is far too many people left on the earth for the Antichrist to fool. Besides, the prophecies call for a 7 year Tribulation, not a 3.5 year Tribulation. The Church needs to be gone for the entire 7 years. You see the Rapture occur in Revelation 4 -

"After this I looked, and, behold, a door [was] opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard [was] as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and [one] sat on the throne." Revelation 4: 1,2

In a Post-Trib scenario, there is no real Rapture because at the end of the Tribulation Jesus returns to the earth. Any time for people to have been raptured out would have passed. So people who hold to the Post-Trib position really do not allow for a Rapture to occur at all.

So what we are left with is the end of the Church age, and the start of Daniel's last week, which is meant for the Jews and not the Church. When you understand that, then when you read Jesus' prophecy of the end times in Matthew 24, you see clearly that He is talking primarily about the Jews in the Tribulation, and not the Church.

Next installment:The Difference Between The Rapture and The Revelation

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Re: NTEB:The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Of The Church: 7Pt series

Sorry Jennice,

Just to point out that the reference picture of 'Seventy Weeks' is NOT A FACT but it still serves as simple illustration regarding the Book of Daniel.

The quoted DATES (606BC, 445BC, 30AD, 70AD) could all be wrong and is JUST for Study Purposes.

Many people held this pre-conceived notion to add up the 7+62weeks as FACT INSTEAD of TAKING God's Word LITERALLY as 62weeks.

"And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off."

God's Word stated after 62weeks and we should take it literally.


The 49yrs (7weeks) should NOT be ADDED to the 434yrs (62weeks) because it IS CLEAR that Messiah was CUT-OFF after 62weeks (434yrs) and this IS THE MAIN CONFUSION for ALL the ERRORS ever since PEOPLE QUOTED THIS as FACT.

Given PROGRESSIVE REVELATION...the 49yrs (7weeks) are con-currently fulfilled in the 434yrs(62weeks) and is still to be fulfilled in this LAST DAYS from 1967AD till 2016AD(supposedly).

Pls see PUZZLE SOLVED...simplified mathematics with Critical Biblical YEARs proved Biblical TIMELINE...

http://www.simplesite.com/7churches/43730281


JESUS is the Prophet like unto MOSES and died 40years old and so NOT in 30AD...maybe in 38AD or 40AD or 43 AD? just example to info the possibilities...

JESUS born year is not confirmed yet...maybe 3BC or 1AD or 3AD? just example to info the possibilities...


Since you are really interested in this Daniel's prophecy...I hope you would pls kindly see timeline (accuracy errors fine tune to +/- few years) in link.

http://www.simplesite.com/7churches/43730272
http://www.4shared.com/dir/Cv4AdsjG/sharing.html

Love sharing this findings with you and all

"But these are written, that ye(you) might believe that Jesus is the Christ(Anointed ONE),
the Son of God;
and that believing ye(you) might have life
through His name."
John 20:31

"...Believe on the Lord Jesus,
and thou(you) shalt be saved,
and thy(your) house(family)."
Acts 16:31

Re: NTEB:The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Of The Church: 7Pt series

Mike, Thanks so much for your input...I happen to agree with you about many of the points you bring up...but I posted this because it otherwise has some good things to say, and presents another viewpoint, for discussion purposes.

Re: NTEB:The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Of The Church: 7Pt series

Dear Jennice, Very glad and happy with your kind understandings...me too learnt from the picture many years ago and grow as time of the Lord nears.

Hope to see all of us in His Kingdom soon and we can discuss with the Lord all His Truth in His Grace & Love

Re: NTEB:The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Of The Church: 7Pt series

One Mesianic preacher said that Yahshua was born in 6BC. He did his research based on many things and especially the Word of the Bible itself.

If some other theologians said that Yahshua was death and raised to live again and went up to heaven in 33 AD then this put the entire life of Yahshua in 39 - 40 years span. So in this case, you could be right, Mike.

Re: NTEB:The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Of The Church: 7Pt series

Quote: Gimel Israel
One Mesianic preacher said that Yahshua was born in 6BC. He did his research based on many things and especially the Word of the Bible itself.

If some other theologians said that Yahshua was death and raised to live again and went up to heaven in 33 AD then this put the entire life of Yahshua in 39 - 40 years span. So in this case, you could be right, Mike.

Dear Gimel,

Could you remember this preacher and why you seem to be very sure that Jesus was born in 6BC knowing that so many believe in the star showing 3BC 11th Sep?

Re: NTEB:The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Of The Church: 7Pt series

Hi Mike, his name is:

Jonathan Cahn

I could not find anything online video about the topics but he sells the audio/video about the subject. I have listened it since I have the audio CD of his teaching when I attended MJAA conference 2010 in Granham PA.
If you listened to it you would find the reason for Yahshua's birth on 6BC very compelling reasoning. Unfortunately, I by errors broke my CD few months ago, so I couldn't listened to it again but still remembered only his conclusion regarding 6BC.

This is just what shown up in his web selling this audio CD:
http://www.bethisraelworshipcenter.org/tapearchive.asp

Message Number: 1612 Date: 6/30/2010
Title: THE MYSTERY OF THE MIKURAH! (MESSIAH CONFERENCE '10)
Summary: Live from Messiah Conference: A Biblical mystery within over 40 Biblical mysteries, the quest to answer a mystery sought after for 2,000 years, concerning the birth of Messiah- from the mystery of the moon, the stars, the dead sea scrolls, the priestly calendar, the Mishkan, and end-time message & more! With Images on DVD

Re: NTEB:The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Of The Church: 7Pt series

Quote: Jennice
Mike, Thanks so much for your input...I happen to agree with you about many of the points you bring up...but I posted this because it otherwise has some good things to say, and presents another viewpoint, for discussion purposes.

Dear Jennice, Pls continue with part3 to 7...would like to learn more and even if learnt before...still good to be refreshed