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Ron Reese (22 Aug 2011)
"Final Nail in Coffin--Amazing Astronomical Discovery confirms 10/29/08!!!"



Below is a post that I wrote in late 2009, with a slight revision, where I have included Kevin Heckle's amazing post, where he has made an amazing astronomical discovery, which totally confirms Oct. 29, 2008, as the date the Antichrist, Barack Hussein Obama, was revealed, to discerning Christians, and the date that started the Final 7 Years.

Kevin Heckle began his search, with NO pre-set agenda. He did not believe in Oct. 29, 2008, when he began his search. He said that his amazing discovery ASTOUNDED him. The omnipotent, sovereign Lord of this universe has chosen to reveal to end-times watchers, NOT ONLY THE DAY, BUT THE HOUR AND THE EXACT MINUTE, OF THE RISING OF THE BEAST OF THE SEA, AND THE DAY AND HOUR, OF THE START OF THE FINAL 7 YEARS!!! FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN, INDEED!!!

By the Lord giving us this undeniable, and conclusive proof, of Oct. 29, 2008, we can also be certain that April 11, 2012, is the mid-point date, which is the start of the 1260-day Great Tribulation. It also means that we can be certain that the day that everything is pointing towards for the literal Return of Christ to this earth at the Battle of Armageddon is, indeed, Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015. For more conclusive and amazing evidence of these three God-ordained dates, visit my website at:



Kevin Heckle's post on 5 Doves (www.fivedoves.com), on Dec. 12, 2009, was awesome, as it gave even greater compelling and conclusive evidence and credibility, using astronomical signs, that Obama is the Antichrist. If any of you have any doubt about the overwhelming and, in my opinion, irrefutable evidence, concerning Oct. 29, 2008, being the first day of the 70th Week of Daniel, as the Lord revealed to me on Oct. 30, 2008, you MUST READ Kevin Heckle's Part 2, the very last article on Five Doves on Dec. 14, 2009, which I have included below.

It is the most awe-inspiring post that I have read in a long time. Any open-minded watcher NOW MUST BE CONFRONTED WITH ONE MORE OVERWHELMING, IRREFUTABLE, AND COMPELLING TRUTH THAT THE FINAL 7 YEARS BEGAN ON OCT. 29, 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Lord told us there would be signs in the Heavens of His Return. Kevin has now discovered more astronomical proof of the EXTREME IMPORTANCE OF OCT. 29, 2008! Our Lord is NOT returning in 2018, or 2019, or in any later year. We now have one more irrefutable piece of evidence that our Lord is returning on Feast of Atonement, the prophetic Feast Day that He is supposed to return on, Sept. 23, 2015, EXACTLY 2520 DAYS, OR SEVEN JEWISH YEARS, FROM OCT. 29, 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The signs pointing to this one day in history are totally amazing!!!

This SHOULD put the final nail in the coffin, people. However, I suspect this will not be the case for most watchers. Hopefully, some more people will be finally persuaded of THIS TRUTH, that the Lord is trying to make so very, very obvious to us. Again, I say that the evidence is so compelling, persuasive, overwhelming, astounding, and irrefutable, that there is NO other reasonable conclusion that can be drawn.

It is time to let go of what we have been taught all these years, about the Rapture before the Final 7 Years (the Rapture will still be simultaneous with the Sudden Destruction, which will REALLY kick into high gear the Judgments of the Book of Revelation). It is time to let go of the extremely popular theory that there HAS to be a 7-year peace covenant with the Antichrist and Israel before the Final 7 Years can start. I can say unto you emphatically THERE WILL BE NO 7-YEAR PEACE TREATY OF ANY TYPE, as there are now a little more than 4 more years left before Jesus returns to set up His Millennial Kingdom. The Lord has shown me, and supernaturally confirmed to me seven times, that the CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27 TOOK PLACE ON OCT. 29, 2008!!!

It is time to let go of pre-conceived ideas that Obama cannot be the Antichrist because he is not from Europe, or Assyria, or not Jewish, or not smart enough, or not popular enough, or not a military man, or not homosexual, or not a prince (the supposed list goes on and on and on). Obama is of mysterious and unknown roots, and is in power in the world's only superpower, and in charge of the largest supply of nuclear weapons, that mankind has ever known. The ONLY one who can control the whole world, like the Antichrist will, is the one who is in charge of the most nuclear weapons. This fact alone rules out all of the other candidates. None of us knows for certain his complete ancestory. Without any doubt in my mind, or hesitation in my spirit, because the Lord has undoubtedly shown me this truth, I can boldly proclaim to all of you, that BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, IS, OR WILL BE, NO LATER THAN APR. 11, 2012, THE START OF THE 3 AND ONE-HALF-YEAR GREAT TRIBULATION, THE ANTICHRIST.

Sadly to say, pre-conceived ideas, and well-intentioned, but incorrect, teachings will STILL cause many Christians, and even watchers, to dig their heels in even deeper, because of what they consider to be Biblical truth. In reality, it is only their interpretation of the Scriptures that are wrong. Obviously, the Word is not wrong. After the Lord revealed to me the reality of what took place on Oct. 29, 2008, I immediately had to do a thorough word-by-word Hebrew study of Daniel 9:27.

Many, many people have written to me, or posted on 5 Doves, to tell me how wrong I am, for various reasons. My Hebrew word study of this extremely important verse revealed that there IS NOT EVEN A HINT THAT THIS VERSE IS TALKING ABOUT A PEACE TREATY WITH ISRAEL AND MANY OTHER COUNTRIES. Yet that is what is widely taught, and almost universally accepted by Bible Prophecy students. I expect to receive some more negative reactions from this email. The Lord has conditioned me to accept and expect this. That is why He gave me SEVEN supernatural confirmations, after revealing this to me, so that nobody else could EVER persuade me, that what the Lord has shown to me, is not the truth. I am so convinced of what He showed me, that I retired several years early from a very good job with the U.S. Postal Service to become a FULL-TIME watchman, in what very short time we have left.

The scribes, Pharisees, and religious leaders in the time of Jesus, were so absolutely certain that Jesus could not be their long-awaited Messiah. After all, they had thoroughly studied all of the Scriptures in the Old Testament, and had thoroughly convinced themselves that Jesus Christ could not possibly be the Promised One. How very, very sad that they missed the most spectacular event, the 1st Coming of Christ, in the history of mankind! All because of their pre-conceived ideas and what had been passed down to them through the ages through other religious teachers. Even right to today, the vast majority of Jews still cannot see Jesus as their Messiah. They are TOTALLY BLINDED TO THE TRUTH, as were the religious leaders during the 1st Coming of Christ. They were, and are, totally blinded to the truth, due to pre-conceived ideas and misinterpreting Scriptures.

They never saw Jesus commit any sin. His teachings were totally Scriptural, but to the religious leaders, they were unconventional. He committed many awesome miracles in their midst. He fulfilled the first four Jewish Feast Days by being crucified on Feast of Passover, buried on Feast of Unleavened Bread, rose again on Feast of Firstfruits, and sent His Holy Spirit on Feast of Pentecost. God did everything He could to show them that Jesus was their long-awaited Messiah. Yet they were TOTALLY BLINDED TO THE TRUTH. They were so totally blinded that they stuck to their pre-conceived ideas, and seemingly right teachings, and murdered the Son of the living God, our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

A few people, in the time of Jesus, could see in the prophecies of the Old Testament and in Biblical astronomy, that it was, indeed, the time for the coming of the Messiah. THEY WERE CALLED WISE MEN. That is the way it is today, with very few having much prophetic discernment. Many people, including watchers, take comfort in the knowledge that most, if not all, the Bible Prophecy "experts", do not believe that the Final 7 Years have started. Most are still looking for that ever-elusive 7-Year Peace Treaty, that is NEVER going to materialize. Most believe the the Rapture will occur JUST BEFORE the signing of this ever-popular peace treaty with Israel and many other countries. Most believe that Obama is NOT the Antichrist, for various reasons.

HOW VERY, VERY, VERY SAD! Our Lord is doing everything in His power to reveal to us the truth about the identity of the Antichrist. Look at all the awesome and compelling posts about 666 and other Bible gematria, confirming to us that Obama is the Antichrist. John Tng, Kevin Heckle, Bob Ware, and Ted Porter have given us irrefutable proof, numerous times, numerically that Obama is the Antichrist, in their posts on Five Doves. To read some of these posts, just go to www.fivedoves.com and scroll to the bottom of the cover page, and click on their posts. You will be totally amazed, at the Biblical proofs that the Lord has given to us, identifying Barack Hussein Obama as the Antichrist.

HOW VERY, VERY, VERY SAD! Our Lord is doing everything in His power to reveal to us the the timing of the 70th Week of Daniel. And yet most are STILL missing it, just like they did during the 1st Coming of Christ. Very few were able to discern what was actually taking place. THE END-TIMES ARE NOT NEAR, THEY ARE HERE NOW!!!!!!! Those things that the majority of you believed in, that I just wrote about above, I too believed, until almost three years ago. So, I can readily identify with where you are at, in your Biblical perspective of these last days. BUT WE WERE WRONG!!! The Scriptures are NOT wrong, not a chance in the world. It is only our interpretation of the Scriptures that has NOW BEEN PROVEN TO BE WRONG.

Please do not be like the religious leaders during the 1st Coming of Christ and miss out on living in the most exciting, awe-inspiring, full of anticipation, days that mankind has ever known. Let's all let God fulfill these end-times Scriptures the way He intended to. Let's let God be God. Many of you have done just that, and have let go of your pre-conceived ideas and incorrect teachings. Many on my mailing list, and readers of 5 Doves, NOW believe that the end of the Final 7 Years will be in the Fall of 2015. I am VERY pleased that this list includes some of the more astute and excellent Bible Prophecy students on the Five Doves site, including Marilyn Agee, Ted Porter, B.G. Ellis, and Bill Griese, among others. All four of these accomplished writers have either written books, or have long, detailed websites, giving us further great insight on this topic. Ted Porter's lastest series on Five Doves, which show us the Final 7 years being EXACTLY the same as the Lord has shown me, is a must-read for all serious Bible Prophecy students.

Progressive revelation is NOW taking place (an increasing knowledge of Biblical end-times Prophecy, which will continue to accelerate, as Daniel predicted, as the world rapidly proceeds through these Final 7 Years in which we NOW find ourselves) . Much of it is proving to be unconventional, to what we have been taught. The overwhelming, extremely compelling, and irrefutable evidence of what is NOW taking place TRUMPS OUR PRE-CONCEIVED IDEAS AND TEACHINGS. The Rapture will SOON be upon us, and all of the peace, joy, excitement, and anticipation and urgency, leading up to that awesome day, will be missed by so very many Christians because of pre-conceived ideas and misinterpretation of the Scriptures.

Below is the last part only, of Kevin Heckle's excellent Five Doves post, on Dec. 14, 2009, giving us ONE MORE CONFIRMATION OF OCT. 29, 2008, BEING THE FIRST DAY OF THE FINAL 7 YEARS. It is about the book of Revelation and Biblical astronomy, which is NOT astrology. I am not educated enough to fully understand, as you may not be, everything that is presented in this post. However, the conclusion, is what is fascinating. The conclusions that one should easily reach are, that we now have EVEN MORE CONCLUSIVE AND VERY COMPELLING AND IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE OF OBAMA BEING THE ANTICHRIST AND THE FINAL 7 YEARS STARTING ON OCT. 29, 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please read the following carefully and prayerfully. The astronomical signs are from Revelation, Chapter 12, which is where the Beast of the Sea (the Antichrist), rises to power:

Kevin Heckle writes:

Both representations of Satan, Draco and Serpens stalk Virgo, waiting to DEVOUR her man-child. A LINE ‘cast down’ from Draco’s mouth-devourer (star Nu Draconis) through the Serpens’ mouth-devourer (star Gamma Serpentis) extending to below the sea (equator), also intersects with the tip of the tail of Hydra – Hy58 (beast rising from the sea). It was a surprise to me that the line intersected the tip of the tail of Hydra. The tip of the tail would represent the BEGINNING of the BEAST RISING FROM the SEA!!!! However, the more spectacular intersect is with the moon’s orbit on this date and time. The line from Draco’s mouth, through Serpens’ mouth touching the tip of Hydra’s tail, crosses the moon’s orbit EXACTLY where the NEW MOON was (14h 58min 25 sec RA and -22* 7.7’ declination) on the same date and time the sun had fully ‘clothed’ Virgo!!!! I checked to see if the same alignment occurred frequently. I manually checked from 1988 through 2028 and the only occurrence of this alignment intersecting with the Draco-Serpens-Hydra line was the date and time: 10/30/2008 00:00:00 UTC which is October 29, 2008 at 8:00 PM EST!!!! Make your own conclusions as to the timing of BHO’s ‘covenant with many’. I believe the alignment is a rare event. There are a few occasions where moon is in the general vicinity during that time-frame of 1988-2028. However, I don’t believe there is an occurrence during that time in which the moon is both below the sun’s ecliptic (thus below her left foot) AND a right ascension greater than 14 hours 43 minutes of Right Ascension, which is the RA of the star Mu Virginis, her right foot. To fulfill the Biblical description ‘moon below her feet’ the moon would also have to be below the sun’s Ecliptic as Virgo is parallel with this line and the sun passing almost directly over her left heel (star).

Consider this ‘coincidence’: a line passing from Draco’s mouth, through Serpens’ mouth (Satan cast down) to the tip of Hydra’s tail (the beast rising from the sea) intersects with a new moon at EXACTLY 8:00 PM October 29th, 2008, while Barack Obama is making his promises to the world; from the other end of Draco, a line beginning at the tip of his tail, passing through the feet of the bear, past the mouth of the lion, through the head of Hydra (beast rising from the sea), crosses the sun’s Ecliptic at 9 hours RA 17* declination, which is EXACTLY the moment of Barack Obama’s claim of birth in Hawaii, August 4, 1961 at 7:24 PM. Draco’s head is connected to Hydra’s tail and Hydra’s head is connected Draco’s tail through EXACTLY two of the most significant dates in Barack Hussein Obama’s life!!!!! His days are written in the star’s timing EXACTLY as the Bible describes it, intertwined with Satan’s representations of the dragon (Draco), the serpent (Serpens) and the beast rising from the sea (Hydra).

In Christ,

Kevin Heckle


Ron Reese



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And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.


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I will try my best catergorize as much as possible.

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By nature people are busy that is why I try to sometimes post things in a category and also independently, After time the independent posts will be old and buried but the categorized will stay in that one particular thread and we can build off of it.

If you type on "Ron Reese" or whatever word you are seeking in the word "search" you can locate most times the article you are seeking.

By the way if you find something you want to "move" to another thread feel free!!!

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Gerry Almond (23 Aug 2011)


Dear Christian Brothers and Sisters:

For those who cannot see the lateness of the hour in which we live as it relates to the program of God for His treasured possession, Israel, I felt led to write this article.


Many have a theory as to when the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy will take place. It ranges all over the place, between now and 2018 and even 2020. There is no biblical evidence for this position. There is, however, Biblical evidence for the following. I can quote chapter and verse, and will do so here. I would personally, rather have a position with Bible backing any time than to have one without backing, wouldn’t you?


In answer to a recent post asking just how long it took Noah to construct the ark, the Bible does not say how long. It says only that God said to Noah, “My Spirit will not always strive with man, in that his days will be 120 years” (Gen 6:3). This is followed by God’s instruction that an ark be built. The presumption is that it took 120 years to build the ark, but probably it really did not. No matter, for now, to the meat of the “sign of Noah”. Jesus Christ said “And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it also be in the days of the coming of the Son of man” (Matt 24:37). I reasoned one day that if God gave man only 120 years back then, perhaps that would apply to man today. And if He did, what man would it apply to? And, from when and on whose account? It turns out not to be a man at all.


We gentiles are incidental to the chosen people, the Jews, in God’s eyes. He began with them to the EXCLUSION of the other nations (gentiles). The Jews are the chosen people, not us. We benefited only because of their fall. In the book of Romans, the Apostle Paul makes this very, very clear. “I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away his people whom He foreknew. Know ye not what the scripture saith of Elijah? How he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying, Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. Even so, then, at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. And if by grace, then it is no more of works; otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace; otherwise work is no more work.” Romans 11:1-6. This is saying that NOT ALL Israel is blind, but most are. God is STILL watching over His people Israel, however they have fallen from the lofty position He had planned for them. Their fall was capped when the Temple was destroyed in 70 A. D. and the great diaspora occurred wherein they were scattered all over the world.


“God hath given them (Israel) the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.” (Romans 11:8). This JUDICIAL blinding was done to them because they rejected their Messiah, and killed Him when they had every reason to accept Him, but would not.

Verse 11 of Romans continues with “I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid; but rather THROUGH THEIR FALL SALVATION IS COME UNTO THE GENTILES, to provoke them to jealousy”. (caps mine).

Get the picture. Israel has to be re-gathered in order for the prophecy of Paul here to be fulfilled. “For if the casting away of them (Israel) be the reconciling of the world, what shall the RECEIVING OF THEM BE, BUT LIFE FROM THE DEAD?” (caps mine) Romans 11:15.

If they had not fallen, we, you and I, would not be saved. We would probably never have been born, as a matter of fact. This age of grace would not have been, had they accepted their Messiah back then instead of crucifying Him. They would have gone into their Kingdom Age. But, God’s omniscience knew beforehand the outcome and He planned for it, ALL PRAISES TO HIS NAME FOR OUR SALAVATION. But, of a truth I tell you, we gentiles must not be conceited on account of it. Listen to Paul’s further words:

“And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree, Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee”. (Romans 11:17-18).

Why did Paul say this? Let him tell us why. “Well, because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear; For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold, therefore, the goodness and severity of God: on them who fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in His goodness; otherwise thou also shalt be cut off”. (Romans 11:20-22).

Thus it is clear in verses 25 and 26 what all this means. “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits: THAT BLINDNESS IN PART IS HAPPENED TO ISRAEL UNTIL THE FULLNESS OF THE GENTILES BE COME IN”. Why is this so important? Because it is by the very skin of our teeth that gentiles are saved. (I Peter 4:18) says “And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?”


Now, remember that Israel is God’s timepiece for the end times. If it can be shown that a “coincidence” of magnitude 1,000,000 is in the scriptures that bear directly on where we are in the time line of prophecy, that directly relates to Paul’s message in chapter 11 of Romans, would you likely accept it? I would and I do. And I say it again, as I said it in a previous post, that I am amazed that others more learned than I will not accept it, especially when it is proven by other scriptures and mathematics.

So what is it? Simply this. In Genesis 6:3, we read: “And the LORD said, My Spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years”. We know that the earth was perfect in those days being not too far from creation. God had cursed it but it still had not rained upon the earth. It was different from that we see today. One difference is that it had a perfect 360 days year. The orbit was not elongated to create 365.2421986 days per year until at least, the flood of Noah’s day. Thus, a simple calculation will give us the days in the “sign of Noah” that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:37-39. “But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away. So shall the coming of the Son of man be”. I know that one of the signs is the 120 years count. Thus:

120 years times 360 days per year equals 43,200 days.


Using this count and applying it to REGATHERED Israel in our times works out to a startling conclusion. In the book of Romans, citied above, the Apostle Paul wrote: “I say then, Have they (Israel) stumbled that they should fall? God forbid; but RATHER THROUGH THEIR FALL, SALVATION HAS COME TO THE GENTILES”. Romans 11:11.

The receiving back of them, Paul went on to say “SHALL BE LIFE FROM THE DEAD”. Vs 15.

This regathering after “many days”, that is over 1,800 years, began on August 31, 1897 under Theodor Herzel, a Jewish statesman of that time. I have written on this extensively in other posts giving the details of the (re)birth of Israel in 1948. The important thing in this post is the START DATE above. Add to that 43,200 days and the arrival time is December 7, 2015. NO LATER. It is biblically based proof that we are in the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy by nearly 3 years now.

This means that the entire time count of Daniel and Revelation is dated and is included in three periods of time. They are:

1,260 days of tribulation comprising the first ½ of the 70th week.

1,260 days of GREAT tribulation comprising the last ½ of the 70th week.

75 additional days identified in Daniel chapter 12, making the last ½ extend to 1,335 days.


The start date of the first ½ was October 29/30, 2008.

The start date of the second ½ will be April 11/12, 2012

The end date of the 70th week will be September 23/24, 2015

The end of the entire period will be December 7/8, 2015.


The first ½ of the week is the birth pangs ever increasing. It is co-incidental with the world wide economic downturn of 2008. (Read James, chapter 5) Ever since then the economy has worsened along with many natural phenomenen occurring, including the appearance of heavenly bodies. The birth pangs are evident everywhere.

The second ½ of the week is the GREAT tribulation, also called THE WRATH OF GOD. It is extremely destructive and will end at Armageddon in a war against Jesus Christ and the angels of heaven. It will be a time of great horror. It appears that the “Destroyer” may be inbound that will carry out this task on orders of God Almighty.

The third time is 75 additional days after Armageddon to set up the Kingdom Age. It will be done by Jesus Christ finally elevating the nation Israel to its promised Kingdom, promised to Abraham.

This, as I said, at the beginning, this is backed by a Bible formula that can hardly be dismissed as a coincidence. I pray God’s blessing on all the Christian brethren, and especially of my fellow prophecy watchers.


Gerry Almond


Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.


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From: Rgreese49@aol.com
To: Rgreese49@aol.com
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:29:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Odds Obama did not confirm Dan. 9:27 covenant on 10/29/08 are 1 in 21,024,000!!!

The post below is a follow-up, to the post that I sent out two days ago. Both posts were written in late 2009, with slight revisions. These two posts have put the final nail in the coffin for Oct. 29, 2008, to be the start date for the Final 7 Years. There almost certainly has to be a lead-in time, of several weeks, or a few months, before the cataclysmic events of the 1260-day Great Tribulation, beginning on Apr. 11, 2012. This means that we have every reason to expect the Rapture/Sudden Destruction in the VERY NEAR FUTURE!!! JESUS IS COMING!!! ARE YOU READY?!! Here is the 2009 post:

Odds that Obama did NOT confirm the covenant on 10/29/08 are one in 21,024,000!!Yes, you read that correctly. Kevin Heckle's latest astronomical discoveries of the signs in the Book of Revelation, Chapter 12, have shown CONCLUSIVELY that Barack Hussein Obama was revealed as the Antichrist, on Oct. 29, 2008, when he confirmed the covenant with millions and millions of people, thereby CONFIRMING his platform, his campaign promises, his COVENANT, with the people, to CHANGE THE WORLD. Kevin's astounding discoveries almost two years ago, have given us more compelling and irrefutable proof that the date the Lord chose was Oct. 29, 2008, EXACTLY 2520 days, or 7 Prophetic years, from the literal Second Coming of Christ, Feast of Atonement, (which is the correct Feast Day for Jesus to return to earth), Sept. 23, 2015.

The word that Kevin used was "astonished", when he made this discovery. He was not looking for this date. He did not go into his search, for the revealing of the Beast of the Sea, using Revelation 12 and Biblical astronomy, with any pre-set agenda, or any date in mind. His search spanned FORTY YEARS (a very Biblical number), from 1988 to 2028. There was ONLY ONE DATE IN THIS FORTY-YEAR SPAN WHERE THE ASTRONOMICAL SIGNS WERE IN THE RIGHT POSITION, TO REVEAL THE BEAST OF THE SEA, OR THE ANTICHRIST!!! THAT DATE WAS OCT. 29, 2008!!! What are the odds that this was a coincidental discovery? This forty-year time span consists of 14,600 days. So the odds that this is the correct date for the Rising of the Beast of the Sea, and, therefore, the correct date for the 1st day of the 70th Week of Daniel, are 14,599 to 1.

It gets even better. I have discovered during the past few years, that when the Lord wants to REALLY CONFIRM something to us, He leaves absolutely NO DOUBT in our minds. That is what He did with me, when He supernaturally confirmed to me SEVEN times that Obama is the Antichrist, and that the Final 7 Years started on Oct. 29, 2008, and will conclude on Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015. NOW THE LORD IS TRYING TO LEAVE NO DOUBT IN ANYONE'S MIND. Something of this magnitude, God makes it as plain as the nose on your face.

At EXACTLY 8:00 p.m., EDT, on the evening of Oct. 29, 2008, the leading Antichrist candidate went on several TV networks, and, in front of millions and milllions of people, CONFIRMED, or strengthened, his campaign promises, his platform, his COVENANT with the people to CHANGE THE U.S. AND TO CHANGE THE WORLD. The word "covenant", both in Strong's Concordance and the dictionary, DOES NOT MEAN, OR EVEN SUGGEST, ANY KIND OF A TREATY. Furthermore, to stretch the meaning in this verse, to mean "peace treaty", is even more far-fetched. Nor is Israel even mentioned in Dan. 9:27.
Yet, it is universally accepted by the vast majority of Bible Prophecy students, that the Antichrist will make a 7-year peace treaty with Israel and many nations, strictly based on this one verse in Dan. 9:27, which has NO Scriptural merit whatsover. This FALSE premise has kept the majority of Christians and watchers looking for this FALSE sign, which is NEVER going to happen. It has, therefore, robbed the majority of Christians of the URGENCY AND ANTICIPATION AND EXPECTANCY that should be filling all of our hearts today. THE FINAL 7 YEARS ARE NOT NEAR, THEY ARE HERE NOW!!!

Kevin Heckle's amazing and awe-inspiring recent astronomical discovery, which astonished him, not only gives us the day that the Antichrist was revealed, and it not only gives us the hour that the Antichrist was revealed, it gives us the EXACT MINUTE THAT THE ANTICHRIST, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, WAS REVEALED. You can read about this breathtaking and astounding discovery, which I posted two days ago, on the link below.
According to Kevin, this astronomical alignment in Revelation 12, that brings forth the Rising of the Beast of the Sea, took place at EXACTLY 8:00 P.M., EST, ON OCT. 29, 2008, THE EXACT SAME MINUTE THAT OBAMA TOOK THE PLATFORM TO CONFIRM HIS COVENANT, OR PROMISES, WITH THE PEOPLE, TO CHANGE THE WORLD. ONE WEEK later, the people confirmed his covenant, by electing Obama as President of the U.S.

In this forty-year span, that comprised Kevin's search, there are 21,024,000 minutes. ONLY ONE DAY, ONLY ONE HOUR, AND ONLY ONE MINUTE are the astronomical signs in place to fulfill the sign of Revelation, Chapter 12, the Rising of the Beast of the Sea, or the Antichrist. So, the odds that Obama confirmed the covenant with many, of Dan. 9:27, at 8:00 p.m., EST, OCT. 29, 2008, are 21,024,000 to one. The odds that this latest awesome Biblical astronomical finding is JUST ANOTHER COINCIDENCE, are one in over 21 million!!!

This is not even taking into consideration, Kevin's other latest Biblical astronomy finding, involving Obama, which he posted about on Dec. 12, 2009, which gives us even MORE evidence of Obama being the Antichrist. (Perhaps Kevin or John could re-post that article, as it does not appear to be available on the 5 Doves website). The odds of these TWO discoveries, taken together, being JUST ANOTHER COINCIDENCE, multiply greatly from the one chance in over 21 million that the 70th Week of Daniel did not start on Oct. 29, 2008, and that Obama is not the Antichrist. Needless to say, the odds now become incalculable, beyond infinity, and totally irrefutable.

Anyone who still maintains that these signs are JUST ANOTHER COINCIDENCE is only fooling themselves. Please do not expect me to get into a debate on what the Lord has AGAIN CONFIRMED TO US. These astronomical discoveries speak for themselves. Does God control the alignments in the Heavens, or doesn't He? Did Jesus not say that there would be signs in the Heavens of His Return? Of course, He did. I readily admit that I do not have all the answers, especially to Daniel, Chapter 9. What I do know is that the Lord has shown to me that most all of us, including me, have misinterpreted Dan. 9:27 all these years. I challenge you to do your own word-by-word Hebrew study of Dan. 9:27, and tell me where I am wrong. Nobody has done that yet, after almost three years. Most everyone continues to just dig their heels in deeper, not willing to let the Holy Spirit deal with their pre-conceived ideas and teachings.

I praise the Lord that during the past three years, the Lord has been giving increasing spiritual discernment to many more watchers. The Lord has been revealing the truth to many who have a teachable spirit. What the Lord is showing to us is so unconventional, to what we have been taught, and what we perceive that the Scriptures teach us, that it is not necessarily an easy thing to grasp. Those of you with doubts about what has been presented here, I strongly encourage you to pray about it, and see if the Lord does not show you, what He is showing to so many of us.

Thank you, Kevin Heckle, for being obedient to the Holy Spirit and for your many hours of diligent research, that went into your two extremely critical, and timely, and compelling posts. I personally know the amount of time and research that goes into posts like those two. I want you to know how much I, and the majority of 5 Doves readers, appreciate all of your efforts. It is my firm belief that your latest efforts have greatly enlightened the minds of a lot of watchers. Thanks, again, Kevin, as this was THE discovery that so very, very many watchers needed to hear about. TOTALLY AWESOME DISCOVERY!!!

This is definitely more compelling, exciting, awe-inspiring, and irrefutable evidence that our Lord and Saviour, JESUS CHRIST IS COMING VERY, VERY SOON!!! BE READY!!!

Ron Reese



Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.


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Jon Sweeten (26 Aug 2011)



Long time reader, rare poster. But I really think Ron Reese and Gerald Almond are hitting it on the head with an April 11th 2012 start point for the Great Tribulation. Remember Scripture, it all starts with Israel being overrun by its enemies, and the abomination that causes desolation entering the temple shortly thereafter. When this happens, and I agree with the 11 April timeframe, then hack your clocks for 1260 days ----prepare for a bumpy ride, and witness your hearts out for the Lord. This 1260 days will take you exactly to Yom Kippur, 23 September 2015, the Day of Atonement.

Luke 21:20-24. "When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. 22 For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. 23 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. 24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled."

When this happens, hack your clocks. Let's look at Scripture supporting the 3 1/2 years duration for the Great Tribulation.

Revelation 11:2-3. "They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. (3 1/2 years) 3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth."

The two witnesses will start their ministry for 3 1/2 years at this point. Elijah kept it from raining for 3 1/2 years, and he'll do it again starting in April!!! Amazing.

Daniel 11:1-2 "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise [taken out of the way?]. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people-everyone whose name is found written in the book-will be delivered. 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt." How long you ask?

Daniel 11:7 "It will be for a time, times and half a time. (3 1/2 years)b]" When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed."

September 23rd, 2015 is EXACTLY 49 prophetic 360 day years from the recapture of Jerusalem in 1967. And the Zondervan NIV Study Bible gives 30 AD as crucifixion. Interestingly, add 2000 prophetic 360 day years to that, and where does it take you? Fall, around 9/11, 2001, when the last 14 years of history started (reference to Genesis/Joseph in Eqypt, 7 years of feast, followed by 7 years of famine). The 7 years of famine started in the Fall of 2008. So we're approaching the final 3 1/2 years now. This Fall could provide the game changing world events that lead up to the overrun of Israel. The UN vote to make Palestine a state is scheduled for 20 September. It could get ugly after that. Will the US veto???

Another interesting tidbit, if anyone's reading up to this point. Add 1000 prophetic 360 day years to 2015, and it takes you to the year 3000 as the very end of the millenium.

How close are we to Isreal being overrun? Read this link:

But, as usual, we could all be wrong. But we keep watching, nevertheless.

In Christ,

Jon Sweeten


Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.


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