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The "Resurrection" has been erroneously labeled The "Rapture". 
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WE STARTED OUT BELIEVING IN A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE
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While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

Yahusha/JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return:  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"  Matt. 24:29 (KJV)


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new bottles for new wine...old bottles for old wine...wine=testament(covenant)

Just thinking of Jesus Christ parable of Old & New wine... sayings on LAW & GRACE?

Old wine is Salvation by Law of Works

New wine is Salvation by Grace by Faith

old bottles means Israel?

new bottles means Church?

Matthew:9:17: "Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved."

Mark:2:22: "And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles."

Luke:5:37,38: "And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish. But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved."


HOLY SPIRIT is the WINE given to CHURCH...

Acts:2:13: "Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine."

AFTER RAPTURE...HOLY SPIRIT is being taken UP...

then OLD WINE for old bottles again...

salvation by LAW OF WORKS for ISRAELITES...

Re: new bottles for new wine...old bottles for old wine...wine=testament(covenant)

Mike interesting you brought this topic up since I just talked about this topic with my friend about two hours ago in our Sabath Church.

I have a little different interpretation of that. This is my interpretation:

The old law is related to eyes with eyes, ears with ears but the new law is about forgiveness, forgiveness of sins, see how Yahshua said to forgive all of those who persecuted him? How Stephanus did the same thing as well as apostle Paul? That is the new revelation, since we have been saved by grace, forgiveness from our Father, therefore, we must forgive others who trespasses against us (The Lord's Prayer specifically mentioned this).

According to what people holds in their life, God's dealing with him/her accordingly. Since Israel as a nation still holds to that old law then all the enemies of Israel would be dealt exactly like what the law says, eyes with eyes and ears with ears. But as you know this can't bring salvation, since salvation only by grace in Yahshua. The final phase would be the time when Israel as a nation accepts Yahshua then the end of that law "ears with ears and eyes with eyes" end and changes to forgiveness act, "forgive them ... for they don't know what they're doing ..." with love you encountered your enemy.

Re: new bottles for new wine...old bottles for old wine...wine=testament(covenant)

Yes Gimel,

We can't be saved by works. Good thinking!

Exodus:21:24b-26: "... thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."

Back to eye for eye & life for life...
Maybe God could save Israel if their 'Body parts which sinned' are throw into hell?

I believe only Christ and His Church could be saved with PERFECT BODY.

The HOLINESS of GOD!

Re: new bottles for new wine...old bottles for old wine...wine=testament(covenant)

And Jesus said unto them, "Can the children of the Bridechamber mourn, as long as the Bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the Bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast."

"No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse."

"Neither do man put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and new wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved." Matthew 9:15-17


My comments:-

The GRACE PERIOD is JESUS the BRIDEGROOM with CHURCH the BRIDE and the children of the Bridechamber are the Israelites.

So ISRAEL need not mourn yet...but when the CHURCH is taken into the BRIDECHAMBER with BRIDEGROOM...Israel will mourn and fast in THOSE DAYS...

It is compared with new cloth and old garment...Church is new Cloth and Israel is the old Garment.

That is why GOD did not place CHURCH in Israel.

Only when CHURCH is hidden in chamber...then Israel will fill up.

Likewise Salvation by GRACE is not for ISRAEL during GRACE PERIOD...so that the old bottles (Israelites) will not break and new wine(Holy Spirit) will not run out...and old bottles (Israelites) will not perish.

GRACE is for BELIEVERs by FAITH and LAW is for ISRAEL by WORKS and both are PRESERVED.

Re: new bottles for new wine...old bottles for old wine...wine=testament(covenant)

Agreed with you Mike, you perfectly describe it.

We should notice that there are many Mesianic Jews in Israel right now, those who believe in Yahshua and interesting enough, Jews thought that those who convert to Mesianic would be considered no longer Jews as they said "If you follow Yahshua the Christ you are no longer Jews because Jews only worship Adonai"

Re: new bottles for new wine...old bottles for old wine...wine=testament(covenant)

Thanks Gimel,

Messianic Jews who believe in Jesus become Jesus' body and so becomes Adonai.

In Revelation 3:9b "...Behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

So non-believing Jews who worship Adonai is worshipping 'Messianic Jews' in Jesus Christ too?

Re: new bottles for new wine...old bottles for old wine...wine=testament(covenant)

I guess they (Jews) at the end would worship Yahshua too .. I have read Revelation 3:9 but I don't know what exactly it means but I don't think that Jews would worship Mesianic because we know that Jews at the end would realize that they should worship and believe in Yahshua, the Messiah.

Re: new bottles for new wine...old bottles for old wine...wine=testament(covenant)

I guess they (Jews) at the end would worship Yahshua too .. I have read Revelation 3:9 but I don't know what exactly it means but I don't think that Jews would worship Mesianic because we know that Jews at the end would realize that they should worship and believe in Yahshua, the Messiah.

Re: new bottles for new wine...old bottles for old wine...wine=testament(covenant)

Could it be that Jesus Christ sit in God's Throne and we the believers seat around HIM in CITY OF GOD which is in HEAVEN and so JEWs on earth look up and worship JESUS in HEAVEN, and so BEFORE our feet where we sit in heaven above?