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BIBLE VERSE WHATSOEVER INDICATING A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE

BIBLE VERSES EVIDENCE:

While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.  John 17:15 (KJV)

Yahusha/JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return:  "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"  Matt. 24:29 (KJV)


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Re: CJ (24 May 2011) "MUST POST BROTHER"

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Bruce Warner (25 May 2011)
"TO: CJ RE: "MUST POST BROTHER" (24 May 2011)"

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Hi CJ,

What a terrific post, brother!

Notice that John describes the sealing of the 144,000 in Rev. 7 AFTER the Sixth Seal is opened as though it may be part of the Sixth Seal events. He also sees the great multitude in heaven at NEARLY THE SAME TIME as though thay BOTH may be part of the Sixth Seal events. He certainly sees BOTH the 'sealing of the 144,000' and the 'multitude in heaven' BEFORE the Seventh Seal is opened.

I believe that the great multitude in heaven is the raptured Church, and that the sealing of the 144,000 and the rapture of the Church do happen in close proximity to one another - maybe ten days apart - (ie. Ascension Day and Pentecost), AFTER THE SIXTH SEAL IS OPENED.

Good Work, CJ.

YBIC, Bruce Warner
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Matt M (25 May 2011)
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CJ,

Great study brother. I asked the Lord to send us some encouragement for the long delay of rapture and past missed dates and I believe He just did by revealing to you what you said in your last post on May 24.

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KML (25 May 2011)
"RE: C J " MUCT POST BROTHER ""

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Hello CJ and Doves

What an Awsome presentation !
THANK YOU....
I have always felt in my heart that we [ the Bride] would go at ascension !

ALL THAT YOU HAVE COVERED HERE IN YOUR POST STATES IT SO VERY SIMPLY. Again THANK YOU.

With everything stated;

The one main reason I believed ASCENSION would be THE DAY is because of this [ ONE ]
verse.

Acts 1: 11
Ye Men of Galilee, WHY STAND YE GAZING UP INTO HEAVEN ? THIS SAME JESUS, WHICH IS TAKEN UP FROM YOU INTO HEAVEN, [ SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER AS YE HAVE SEEN HIM GO INTO HEAVEN]

I received it Literally, as I receive all of the Word of God.
I too have believed it would be on a New Moon.
DID YOU ALSO NOTICE IN THE SCRIPTURE REFERENCE 1:11
EVERYONE HAS BEEN SEEING 111.
God said :
Isaiah 46: 9,10
REMEMBER... THE FORMER THINGS OF OLD, FOR I AM GOD, AND THERE IS NONE ELSE; I AM GOD, AND THERE IS NONE LIKE ME,
[DECLAIRING THE END FROM THE BEGINNING], AND FROM [ANCIENT TIMES] THE THINGS THAT ARE [NOT YET] DONE, SAYING, " MY COUNCEL SHALL STAND AND I WILL DO MY PLEASURE.

With this verse in mind consider this:

IT WAS A FOURTH MONTH NEW MOON THAT ADAM AND EVE WENT OUT OF THE GARDEN.

Tammuz is the Hebrew 4th month and is associated with Decent and Ascent.

In these last days......God will raise up young men to prophesy.

Thank you dear Brother
Blessings
Come Lord Jesus !

KML
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Jimmy (25 May 2011)
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CJ...I have missed reading your studies over the last several weeks. Your excitement is contagious. I am glad your back.

I would like to add a couple of things.

Just finished watching "Bibi's" speech with my family. I find it so intoxicating that over the last few days the world has been caught up, so to speak about the Rapture and the Peace Treaty. For they do go hand in hand. I am a 57 year old gentleman, and it has been 50 years since my father told me, "Son, you will live long enough to see all the armies of the world start to gather to take Jerusalem away from the Jewish people".

He believed he would also, but he has a better view today from the balcony with Jesus. Bibi said in his speech "that Jerusalem is indivisible", and the next words where this "Peace can't be obtained without Security". All the markers are here, as the Apostle Paul has made so clear in scripture. "When they say Peace and Safety" then sudden destruction comes upon them, God's wrath is poured out on this world. My father started explaining these things to me before the Jewish People even had Jerusalem, of course they didn't get it till the 67 War. He knew a great deal of scripture. He instilled in me a love for the Jewish People.

The Apostle Paul makes it crystal clear in scripture that we must be taken out of the way before this treaty is confirmed with the Anti-Christ. The reason I said "Intoxicating" earlier about the Rapture and the Peace Treaty all together over a few days is, these two events are the biggest argument starter's possible. Literally most all of the world and those who claim the name of Christ believe that the "Jews are Occupiers" of this Land.

That the Lord is through with the Jew, and the Church has of course replaced them. God Bless him, but even before Mr Camping, the mention of the Rapture would either start a fight, have you laughed to scorn, or empty the room. So we have had several days of the word Occupier tossed about, and we as believer's have been laughed to scorn somewhat with May 21st coming and going, but in my spirit, I am soaring. I believe true believer's are looking even more.

I have often wondered about the "10 days" could it be between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur? It has been several years since I did a long study on the "Days of Awe". The Lord sits on his Throne during RH judging, the gates of Heaven are open (Jewish tradition), and we the Church have already been judged and there is a "Door Opened in Heaven", and I believe Yom Kippur is strictly for the Jews. I have known for several years about the Law and Grace being given on Pentecost, but CJ I agree with you. It appears Pentecost is the Lord's Moving Day in the light of dispensations with Ascension Day being the key for us.

If my understanding is correct then Pentecost seems to be pivotal in the light of 7 major feasts and it is the 4th right in the middle, (the servant lamp) (3+1+3) with 3 yet to be completely fulfilled with the Lord's second coming. Two Bible Promises..The Land Covenant and The Blessed Hope screaming to us. God Bless J R Church, I think he believed it was on Pentecost, and to quote him "Keep Looking Up"

Thanks CJ...looking forward to meeting you and I hope soon. If not keep winning souls to Christ..Jimmy
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Rene (25 May 2011)
"re: CJ's Rapture Post"

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CJ - This date you give - it is also the 153rd day of the year! For some, it will be June 1, for others, June 2nd.

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Regina (25 May 2011)
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Dear CJ (I hope you read here), its good to see you back.

Your study gives me butterflies inside. I hope this is correct. On my dayplanner, Ascension day is Thurs June 2.
Link to Catholic calendar answer.

In the US Link

June 2 is 1% visible moon Link

Remember Charity’s 5, 6, 7 Jesus? This is close. We have 7 days left in May, Then June 1. Maybe the calendar is off by a day...
Perhaps we can count the days 5, 6, 7, Ascension Day (hoping to be with Jesus)

Did you see Netanyahu's speech today and Palestinian reaction? It cannot be very long. Judgement is already beginning in the US post Obama's position on Israel. Inside me I think God won't let His "crop" be destroyed. We will be gathered at His appointed time, by His grace and mercy as Gimel says. Amen

Keep looking up and don't be discouraged. Our beloved Lord is coming back soon.


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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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Re: CJ (24 May 2011) "MUST POST BROTHER"

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Eliane B (25 May 2011)
"To Raul D., C.J. and others who expect Rapture on Pentecost or July"

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Dear Doves,



Raul D. said he expects the Rapture in the month of July.



Many expect the pretrib Rapture on Pentecost (whichever year), like myself.



I would just like to say that according to the Lunar Sabbath theory (see Creation Calendar website, at www.creationcalendar.com), the correct Pentecost date would fall on the 28th or the 29th day of the 4th Hebrew month (nowadays called “Tammuz”), depending on how you count (28th if you use inclusive reckoning or 29th in normal counting of the 50 days after the 7th Sabbath complete).



This year (2011) these dates will fall respectively on July 30th and July 31st.



C.J., on those dates I believe there will be no visible moon in the sky, because they are the last days of the Hebrew month.



I believe the 70th Week starts some time after the Rapture (probably on Tishri 1st) and that the Two Witnessess start their ministry only then. I think there is an interval between the Rapture and the beginning of the 70th Week.



We must remember that the two loaves of leavened bread had to be lifted up and waved by the High Priest to the Father, on Pentecost, just like the firstfruit sheaf was lifted up to the Father on Firstfruits (Nisan 16th). If the fulfillment of the Feast of Firstfruits was the Rapture of the Firstfruits (when they presented themselves to the Father in Heaven on that day), the final fulfillment of Pentecost will be the presentation of a pair of something UP to the Father, accordingly. So I’m not talking about the Father sending a pair of something (the Two Witnessess) DOWN to Earth, but there being a pair something being offered to the Father UP in Heaven. I don’t know if that pair would be the dead in Christ + the living believers (after being transformed and Raptured), or a representation of believing Jews + believing Gentiles, or even a combination of those two ideas. What I do think is that it’s important that we take into consideration that in the Old Testament (the Torah), the High Priest lifted two loaves of leavened bread UP to the Father, which in my opinion corresponds to the idea of a Rapture of believers (the idea of us being presented in Heaven).



Of course the Two Witnesses could be sent to Earth on that very same day (which could make a lot of sense because the body of one of them has to be risen from the dead first), and then their ministry would start on the following Feast of Trumpets probably.



By the way, I think that they are Elijah and John the Apostle – not Moses. In Revelation 11:1, “John is told to RISE, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein”. I believe that the verb to RISE there is talking about John’s own resurrection, and not about someone that was sitting down and would then rise to walk and do some trivial task. What task would John have to perform? In Revelation 10:11, John had been told that he “must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings”, a very important task, that he would be assigned to do after his resurrection. So both verses give us the idea that John is a possible Witness together with Elijah. Although we remember John as the beloved disciple, John was also called by Jesus Himself as the Son of Thunder (as his brother). Not to mention that fact that there were all those comments by the other apostles that Jesus had supposedly said that John wouldn’t die. Part of that could be true; Jesus might be giving a hint that John would indeed be risen in the endtimes to play an important role as one of the Two Witnesses. Just a speculation.



I know that many people here don’t agree with the Lunar Sabbath theory. But for those who would like to consider the Lunar Sabbath Pentecost (the 28th or 29th day of the 4th Hebrew month, which in 2011 lands on July 30th or 31st [a Sunday] depending on how one counts) as one of the possibilities for Pentecost, here is my reminder that that date is included (whichever year) in our “high alert rapture dates”, even if we have many possible dates for Pentecost, as there are so many interpretations as how it must be counted.



Also please note that for the three previous in a row (2008, 2009 and 2010) there have been total solar eclipses on that very same day (the 29th of the 4th Hebrew month), on August 1st 2008, July 22nd 2009 and July 11th 2010. Would that be a signal pointing to that same date (the 29th of the 4th Hebrew month) in 2011? I don’t know. Let’s be ready always, as we don’t know if anything is going to happen this year.



Love and Shalom from YSIC,



Eliane

P.S.: by the way, the appearing of the 2 Witnesses in the scene would certainly be a loud Bridegroom’s cry! (as if we needed anything louder than the world news already happening these days…)

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Zechariah 12:3,9:
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.



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Steven

Re: CJ (24 May 2011) "MUST POST BROTHER"

pls see new post too...There are 7 Holy Convocations (3 Feasts) of the Lord
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3330765498&frmid=8549&msgid=874341&cmd=show

http://www.simplesite.com/7churches/43730288

It is Very Interesting from researching this Feast of Weeks and note that in Numbers chapter 28&29...Feast of Weeks WAS NOT mentioned!?

Is this OMITTED as a commandment for Israel to DO?

Meaning that JESUS will do 'Peform' this FEAST for us?

see pages 4-13 note especially last page...

http://www.simplesite.com/7churches/43730288?i=43160726