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(Rapture is a Vatican/Jesuit Lie )The "Resurrection" has been erroneously labeled The "Rapture".
THERE IS NO RAPTURE
WHY THE TITLE RAPTURE BIBLE PROPHECY FORUM?
WE STARTED OUT BELIEVING IN A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE
BUT FOUND OVER TIME AROUND 2006 THAT THE BIBLE DOES NOT SHARE A
BIBLE VERSE WHATSOEVER INDICATING A 7 YR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE
BIBLE VERSES EVIDENCE:
While Yahusha/JESUS was alive, He prayed to His Father: "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. John 17:15 (KJV)
Yahusha/JESUS gave signs of what must happen before His Return: "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:" Matt. 24:29 (KJV)
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Yahusha/JESUS is The WORD
Yahusha is I Am That I Am (Exodus 3:14)
Yahusha is YHWH come in the flesh, He put aside His Diety to become a human, born of a Virgin.
Yahusha is the Word, As The Most High, He spoke all things seen and unseen into existence
When YHWH created Light, He was revealed to the angels.
John 14:26
"the breath of life"
But the Comforter, which is "the breath of life", whom the Father will send shall teach you all things.
God is not His Name but a term. The Holy Spirit is not a person but the very Breath of the Father.
There is no Trinity. The Father, YHVH and Yahusha are One (John 10:30)
THE BOOK OF ENOCH
NOW IS THE TIME!
FOR A REMOTE GENERATION THE LAST GENERATION FOR THE ELECT!
REFERENCES IN THE BOOK OF ENOCH TO THE BIBLE
https://bookofenochreferences.wordpress.com/category/the-book-of-enoch-with-biblical-references-chapters-1-to-9/chapter-1/
Book of Enoch: http://tinyurl.com/BkOfEnoch
The book of Second Peter and Jude Authenticate the book of Enoch and Vice Versa
Yahusha/JESUS QUOTED FROM THE SEPTUAGINT:
THE APOSTLES QUOTED FROM THE SEPTUAGINT
JEWS WERE CONVERTING TO CHRISTIANITY
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Comment
Dear Helena,
The CHURCH is LEAH the twin sister of ISRAEL (Rachel).
I am not saying that God is not saving the Israelites. God is saving the Church(Jews & Gentiles who believe in Christ by Faith in Grace Alone)
God is sure going to save ISRAEL the beloved RACHEL (Hebrews & Jews who believe in Messiah by Holiness in Law)
This is God's Will and why there is a need(view) to have PRE-TRIB as mentioned and believed by many.
If you are saying Millenium has started, is satan locked up already?
Helena Lehman
Gimel
I believe that Yahshua was born in 6BC and died on 33AD so I agree with you that He might have died when he was 40 years old.
As shown in the above excerpt from my book “The Language of God in the Universe” regarding Yahshua’s birth and another excerpt I hope to post here later tonight regarding His death from my book “The Language of God in Humanity”, I have found compelling proof that Yahshua was born in 3 BC and died in 31 AD when He was about 33 years old.
Luke clearly indicates that Yahshua was about thirty years old when He started His ministry, which only lasted three and a half years:
Luke 3:23 - “Now Jesus Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph…”
Also keep in mind that life begins at conception, not at birth, so Yahshua may have been 29 years from birth but 30 years from conception when He started His ministry, which was likely in 27 AD.
Helena Lehman
Pillar of Enoch Ministry
To learn more about my books, go to: http://pillar-of-enoch.com
For Fair Use Discussion and Educational Purposes
Must SEE!!: Word for Word :Movie Video!: The Gospel of JOHN
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/static/post.php?usernum=3330765498&frmid=8549&msgid=872218&cp=1&reply=872218"e=quote&mode=add
Dear Helena, as quoted from earlier post below...very interesting discussion between RITAn and me before I was LOCKed and then I was blocked...
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Hi Steven,
Good video which showed truthfully that Jesus was already baptized by John(Baptist) who recognised HIM the next day after questioned by Pharisees.
Just sharing my discussion in a post in ‘RITAnow’ which was locked due to my belief that Jesus died 40years old.
The below quoted from mike in RITAnow...
If you study Gospel of John chapter1 verse 19 to 34...
You would see clearly in verse33 that John(Baptist) knew not that Jesus(his cousin) was the PROPHET. God told John(Baptist) "Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost."
"And I knew Him not: but He that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost." John1:33
Then how could John in verse 29 DECLARED Jesus as the LAMB of GOD when JESUS is coming unto him?
"The next day (after John the Baptist answered they which were sent of the Pharisees) John (the Baptist) seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world."
...the next day John the Baptist proclaim Jesus as the Lamb of God, then the next day 2 disciples followed Jesus.
I strongly believe John(Baptist) only realised Jesus is Son of God only at the time just before Jesus was being baptised by John(Baptist), the Holy Spirit was already descending (took some time right?) down like a Dove and that was the moment he knew Jesus was the Son! So John(Baptist) said to Jesus that "I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?" Matthew 3:14.
How could he have said "behold the Lamb of God" in the first place?
mike wrote in RITAnow
How could this be TRUE if Jesus was immediately LED by the HolySpirit according to all Gospels of Matthew,Mark&Luke into Wilderness for 40days AND NOT to the feast as in John chapter 2 verse 1???
"And immediately the Spirit driveth Him into the wilderness." Mark1:12
"Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil." Matthew 4:1
"And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordon, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness. Being forty days tempted of the devil" Luke 4:1,2a
blueteapot’s response from RITAnow
Response: The Sequence of John’s Testimony tells us what is going on here.
First we see that John the Beloved is establishing Christ as The Word, and pointing that John the Baptist testified concerning that. The definition of testify or testimony is to tell what you witnessed or know regarding an event which has already happened. The key is that all of this is past tense, not present tense.
John 1:14-37 (NIV)
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
15 (John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”
16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and
is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. Here, John the Baptist makes clear that he testified (past tense) to the Jews leaders that he understood he is not the one, but Christ was coming.
John the Baptist Denies Being the Messiah
19 Now this was John’s testimony when the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. 20 He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, “I am not the Messiah.”
21 They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?”
He said, “I am not.”
“Are you the Prophet?”
He answered, “No.”
22 Finally they said, “Who are you? Give us an answer to take back to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?”
23 John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, “I am the voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way for the Lord.’”
24 Now the Pharisees who had been sent 25 questioned him, “Why then do you baptize if you are not the Messiah, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?”
26 “I baptize with water,” John replied, “but among you stands one you do not know. 27 He is the one who comes after me, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie.”
28 This all happened at Bethany on the other side of the Jordan, where John was baptizing.
Next, John points out Jesus. Remember - At this point in time…the Baptism has already taken place! John is not saying a) the Lamb of God that b) I did not know. John is saying a) I did not know Him until b) I baptized Him. See the word “meant” in verse 30. That’s past tense. John is talking about what has already happened, not what is happening. The same in verse 33 - the word is “told”, past tense.
John Testifies About Jesus
29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ 31 I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel.”
32 Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. 33 And I myself did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 I have seen and I testify that this is God’s Chosen One.”
And the last part of the sequence. John’s disciples, hearing John’s testimony about what has already happened, followed Jesus.
John’s Disciples Follow Jesus
35 The next day John was there again with two of his disciples. 36 When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, “Look, the Lamb of God!”
37 When the two disciples heard him say this, they followed Jesus.
So the answer to your question “How could he have said "behold the Lamb of God" in the first place?” is that it was NOT in the first place, it was after the event, in the second place.
mike ‘s response from RITAnow to blueteapot
Thanks for explaining this fact that there were 2 different incidents of John(Baptist) with Jesus.
The answer is that John the Baptist saw Jesus again after 7years...John the Baptist then in this Gospel of John1verse29... John(Baptist) saw Jesus coming the 2nd time after 7years since Jesus' baptism and so John the Baptist declared Jesus as the LAMB of GOD.
So Jesus was Baptised around 30years old, immediately led by Spirit into wilderness for 40days.
Then Jesus preached '7years' in Syria, and HIS fame was all over Galilee in Syria.
"And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of Him through all region round about." Luke4:14
and Jesus returned from Jordon to John(Baptist) and next day 2 disciples of John(Baptist) followed Jesus.
And then Gospel of John recorded the Passover Records which could be 3 to 4 years
Pls see The Year Jesus Died.
http://www.simplesite.com/7churches/43730287
http://www.4shared.com/account/document/80At7I3M/AUC_AD_BC_conversion_to_determ.html
http://www.4shared.com/account/document/AkjLF-7F/AUC_AD_BC_conversion_to_determ.html
Pls see Moses Code & Hebrews Chapter3 confirmed Jesus Worked 40years
http://www.simplesite.com/7churches/43730280
mike
Even PAUL has to mentioned HIS WORKS twice and so confirmed why ISRAEL was rejected.
HEBREWS 3:6-12
But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
Wherefore
(as the Holy Ghost saith,
To day if ye will hear his[JESUS] voice,
Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my [JESUS]works forty years.
Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God."
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Look at the brackets ( )
hidden meanings...please.
Then Paul mentioned why ISRAEL was rejected due to UNBELIEF...
Hebrews 3:15-19
v15: While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
v16: For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
v17: But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
v18: And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
v19: So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief."
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That is why GOD had rejected ISRAEL for 2000years already and NOW IS THE TIME TO CALL ISRAEL HIS BRIDE
MOSES CODE is 40years and GOD DEMANDED ISRAEL to HEARKEN unto the PROPHET LIKE MOSES.
"The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee
a Prophet [JESUS CHRIST]from the midst of thee
, of thy brethren,
LIKE UNTO ME [MOSES];
unto HIM [JESUS] ye
shall HEARken;" Deuteronomy 18:15
"And it shall come to pass,
that whosoever will not HEARken unto MY words
which HE [JESUS] shall speak in MY name,
I will require it of him."
Deuteronomy 18:19
As confirmed by Stephen before his death in Act7:35-37
"This Moses whom they refused,
saying, Who made thee a ruler and a judge?
the same did God send to be a ruler and a deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him [Moses] in the bush.
He brought them out,
after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt,
and in the Red Sea,
and in the wilderness
FORTY YEARS.
This is that Moses,
which said unto the children of Israel,
A Prophet shall the LORD your God
raise up unto you of your brethren,
like unto me [Moses]:
Him [JESUS] shall ye
HEAR."Act7:35-37
pls see Moses Code(40) Jesus Worked 40years Revealed in Hebrews Chapter3
http://www.simplesite.com/7churches/43730280
WE HAVE 3 WITNESSES "MOSES, APOSTLE PAUL and DEACON STEPHEN"
who CONFIRMED JESUS AS THE PROPHET like MOSES
and all 3 of them MADE the REFERENCE to FORTY YEARS and demanded ISRAEL to HEARken HIS VOICE.
IF JESUS was only 33.5yrs old when HE FINISHED HIS WORKs...
WOULD YOU be WILLING to ARGUE that JESUS is the PROPHET LIKE MOSES who worked FORTY YEARS ?
And WOULD YOU be WILLING to EVEN DIE by being STONED by your BRETHREN?
So is it COMMON SENSE that ALL 3 WITNESSES had CONFIRMED JESUS' 40yrs WORKS and so FULFILLs THE Requirement of the PROPHET like unto MOSES?