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 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:   Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." I Thess. 4:16-17 (KJV)

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10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
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Luke 21:25-28

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
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Does God's Wrath Begin with the Trumpets?

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Does God's Wrath Begin with the Trumpets?

Arguments from the Apostle Paul

One of the arguments for the trumpets being God's final wrath is that the Day of the Lord is described as bringing swift and sudden judgment. Furthermore, the apostles appeared to make no divisions within the Day of the Lord. As far as they were concerned, it was all God's wrath. Therefore, since the Day of the Lord brings swift, sudden judgment, and because the apostles did not make any distinctions, neither should we. It must be all God's wrath.

First, it is important to remember that, when verses like 2 Thess. 1:6-10 were penned, Revelation had not been written. The breakdown between seals, trumpets, and bowls had not yet been revealed. The Day of the Lord was just seen as one big, mean time period with everything all jumbled together. It wasn't until Revelation that it became clear that the Day of the Lord was made up of discrete parts.

God's decision to hide the complex nature of a prophetic event until a later date has much company throughout scripture. One of them is the coming of the Messiah. Consider the Old Testament prophets, who were looking for the Messiah to come both as the Suffering Servant and the Conquering King at the same time. Throughout the Old Testament, the prophecies of Christ's coming included His Servanthood and His Kingship in the same context. It was not until centuries later that the dual coming of the Messiah, and thus the mulit-part nature of the prophecy, was revealed. If the multi-part nature of the coming of the Messiah was hidden from the Old Testament writers, why could not the multi-part nature of the Day of the Lord have been hidden from the New Testament writers?

Indeed, it was. The early New Testament writers saw only one time period that is the Day of the Lord, a fact that is very clear from their writings. Even Paul saw the Day of the Lord this way. However, the multi-part nature of this Day (and, indeed, all of the 70th Week) was not revealed until the Apostle John wrote The Revelation many years after the gospels and the epistles were written. They were revealed after most, if not all, of the other apostles, including Paul, had died.

There is no question that the Day of the Lord brings swift, sudden judgment. Immediately upon its outpouring, the unsaved will know that they are about to enter into a time of God's displeasure. But the execution of judgment and the outpouring of God's final, Day of the Lord wrath are not one and the same.

The trumpets will be nasty, but they will also be a time of evangelism. Time must be allowed for the unsaved to coming to a knowledge of the Messiah, who after the sixth seal will have appeared in the sky, where “every eye will see, even those who pierced Him” (Rev.1:7). At this time — after seeing the physical, undeniable presence of Jesus Christ — many will come to faith in their Messiah. The final outpouring of God's wrath, on the other hand, appears to be like pouring out a caldron of hot oil — ferocious, inescapable, and indiscriminate. Rev. 14:10 describes this time as when God's wrath is “poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation.”

What About Post-Rapture Believers?

Why must this time be allowed? Won't there be people coming to faith in Christ during the bowls, too? Not likely. Rev. 11: 10-11 tells us that if anyone worships the beast (the Antichrist) and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead of on his hand, "he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb." In other words, those who take the mark will be lost forever.

This is important because, earlier in Revelation, we are told that without the mark, no one will be able to buy or sell. Therefore, those who do not take the mark will risk starving to death. For believers, there is strong incentive for not taking the mark, even if the price is starvation. The consequences of their decision will be eternal. But what about nonbelievers? There is no such incentive. They will take the mark. And if they do, they will know that they are buying into the Antichrist's Satanically empowered system. When Jesus appears in the sky to rapture the Church, it will be clear to everyone that He is Lord. If anyone takes the mark of the beast, they will know that they are choosing the Antichrist over the God of Heaven and Earth. But the lie that blankets the earth (2 Thess. 2:11) will cause them to believe that the Antichrist has the power to protect them.

There may be some during the trumpets who hold off making this decision, but they will not be able to hold off forever. Starvation and martyrdom at the hands of the Antichrist is at stake. At some point, likely very early in the trumpet judgments, they must choose between Jesus as Messiah and Lord or the false god. If they choose the Antichrist, this decision cannot be reversed. Indeed, we can see by the fourth bowl tells us that these decisions have been made:

...and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory (Rev. 16:9).

Indeed, as the waters are being turned to blood, the angel of the waters cries out, "You are righteous, O Lord, The One who is and who was and who is to be, because You have judged these things. For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and You have given them blood to drink. For it is their just due" (Rev. 16:5-6). Another angel from the altar cries, "Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are Your judgments" (Rev. 16:7).

These verses give us an indication that the trumpets and the bowls are different in kind. While God's wrath has abided upon the earth since the days of the Israelites, the specific, terrifying time of God's final wrath will likely not begin at the commencement of the Day of the Lord. In God's infinite mercy, He will hold off this final, horrific time until after the trumpet judgments, when it is poured out in the bowls.