Ibrahim,

Lencho said that “Ethiopia remains a colonial empire with the Tigrinya-speakers replacing Amharic-speakers as its dominant groups after 1991 when the TPLF/EPRDF came to power” This is completely different from your line of thinking. You seem to champion Meles and blame every thing on Amhara, Lencho seems to suggest that the Amhara kingdom is replaced by Tigrayan kingdom. And faults Meles for that. I know you were not able to reconcile your position with that of VJ. Can you try to reconcile your difference with Lencho, whom you seem to support fully. Or at least tell us where your views are different from Lencho.

Mamo Qilo

Ibrahim,

Where are you?

Mamo Qilo

Osman, 27, is a naturalized British citizen from Ethiopia, according to the Italian Interior Ministry and his court-appointed defense attorney, Antonetta Sonnessa.





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Manage Alerts | What Is This? ROME, Italy (CNN) -- The failed July 21 bombings in London were not linked to the lethal attacks of July 7 or al Qaeda, a bombing suspect in Italian custody has told his interrogators, sources close to the investigation told CNN.

Hussain Osman, who is also known as Hamdi Issac, said the four men who partially detonated backpack bombs before running from their targets on July 21 were not working with the July 7 bombers who killed themselves and 52 commuters on three London Underground trains and a bus, the sources said.

Osman also claimed the July 21 group was not working for al Qaeda, the Islamic terrorist organization behind the September 11, 2001, terror attacks on the United States, last year's Madrid train bombings and numerous atrocities worldwide.

Further, the sources said, Osman told authorities the bombs were meant to draw attention to anger over the war in Iraq and not to kill anyone.

The Italian Interior Ministry declined to comment on the published statements, which first appeared in two Italian newspapers, La Repubblica and Corriere della Serra.

Osman was arrested in Rome on Friday after investigators traced his travels by monitoring cell phone activity from England to France to Italy. He left from London's Waterloo train station on July 26, five days after the failed attacks, according to Italian authorities.

Osman, 27, is a naturalized British citizen from Ethiopia, according to the Italian Interior Ministry and his court-appointed defense attorney, Antonetta Sonnessa.

Scotland Yard has accused him of being the would-be bomber at the Shepherd's Bush Underground station, the man seen in closed-circuit television images wearing a backpack at a nearby tube station before he boarded the train, and later, wearing a tank-top T-shirt as he fled on a bus.

Osman was arrested at his brother's apartment in Rome. That brother, Ramzi Issac, was also arrested on charges of possessing false documents. He owns an Internet cafe and phone-calling center in Rome.

Late Saturday, Italian police arrested another of Osman's brothers, Fati Issac, in the northern Italian province of Brescia, officials announced Sunday. Fati Issac was charged with destroying documents sought by investigators.

An Italian judge Sunday validated Osman's arrest and detention under Britain's extradition request, meaning that he must remain in jail until the court decides if the extradition can proceed.

But Osman's court-appointed defense attorney, Antonetta Sonnessa, told CNN that Osman would refuse the extradition, which would throw the extradition into a lengthy appeal process and prevent any possible transfer to London for months.

Britain is seeking Osman's rapid extradition under a newly available fast-track European arrest warrant. He is being held at the Regina Coeli prison in central Rome, and his interrogations are being videotaped. He speaks in "comprehensible" but not fluent Italian, according to Italian anti-terrorism officials.

At least three of the July 21 suspects are of East African origin and were living in London. Three of the four July 7 bombers were of Pakistani origin and lived in the area of Leeds, in northern England, a three-hour drive from London.

Osman described fellow bombing suspect Ibrahim Muktar Said, previously named by police as Muktar Said Ibrahim, as the ringleader of the July 21 group who taught the others how to make their bombs, according to La Repubblica and Corriere della Serra.

Osman also said the men were motivated by Britain's involvement in the Iraq war and that the men used to watch videotapes of the carnage there, the Italian newspapers reported.

Ibrahim, 27, a naturalized British citizen from Eritrea, has been accused of attempting to bomb a double-decker bus in Hackney, east London. He is one of two men arrested Friday in an armed police raid on a government-subsidized apartment building in North Kensington, west London.

Also taken into custody with him was Ramzi Mohammed, accused of attempting to bomb a train at Oval station in wouth London.

Neighbors told CNN Ibrahim occupied that apartment for several months. He is also known to have shared a different apartment in recent years with Yasin Hassan Omar, 24, who has been accused of attempting to detonate a bomb in the Warren Street rail station.

Omar was the first July 21 suspect taken into custody, arrested on Wednesday in Birmingham, 100 miles north of London.

British police are also holding a fifth suspected July 21 bomber who was arrested in a raid Friday in the Notting Hill neighborhood, about a mile away from where Ibrahim and Mohammed were arrested.

On July 23, police recovered a fifth undetonated device, identical to the plastic container-held explosives used by the other men in custody, in a west London park called Little Wormwood Scrubs that is in the neighborhood of Friday's arrests.

Scotland Yard would not comment on British media reports that the fifth man was Mohammed's brother.

The four alleged bombers in British custody are being held at the high-security Paddington Green police station in London.

Seven of the more than 20 other people arrested in connection to the July 21 probe are still in British custody. On Sunday, Metropolitan Police arrested six more people in connection to the case in Sussex, south of London.

A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said no armed officers were present as police executed search warrants in Sussex, but gave no other details of the arrests.

The July 21 devices, like the July 7 ones, were homemade bombs believed to contain white peroxide-based explosive, a description consistent with the highly volatile TATP, which stands for triacetone triperoxide.

Britain is a seeking extradition of a suspected facilitator of the July 7 cell, Rashid Haroon Aswat, who was arrested in Zambia on July 20. Aswat entered the country from neighboring Zimbabawe on July 6, according to Zambian officials.

Aswat, 30, a British citizen of Indian descent from the Leeds area, is a suspected al Qaeda operative. He has been accused by U.S. prosecutors of plotting to organize a "jihad" terror training camp in the U.S.

Zambian officials were in discussions with U.S. and UK officials about which nation should take custody of Aswat. A spokesman for the British Foreign Ministry said Sunday the UK was seeking consular access to him in Zambia.

CNN's Jennifer Eccleston and Hada Messia in Rome and Phil Hirschkorn in London contributed to this report.

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It is the usual technic that Eritreans claim to be Ethiopian when they are caught violating the law. It will be shown that he may have been born in Ethiopia but he is an Eritrean. His parents have said so in London.

Mamo Qilo

Ibrahim,

Are you running away from yourself? You must stand for some thing and it must be something you can defend. You seem to support and champion Meles, VJ and Lencho all at the same time. These are three people with very different aganda, different approaches and diametrically opposite views. We like to hear from you. As an intellectual you owe it to yourself to explain your position.

I think I may have paralized you by showing the fallacy in your thinking and the holes in your political canvas. Now do not come back to yearn your usual settler this and settler that story. Stand up like a scholar and try to see if you can escape my trap.

Mamo Qilo aka
Yejib Tila

Ibrahim,

This was what I asked you on this thread to reconcile:

Lencho said that “Ethiopia remains a colonial empire with the Tigrinya-speakers replacing Amharic-speakers as its dominant groups after 1991 when the TPLF/EPRDF came to power” This is completely different from your line of thinking. You seem to champion Meles and blame every thing on Amhara, Lencho seems to suggest that the Amhara kingdom is replaced by Tigrayan kingdom. And faults Meles for that. I know you were not able to reconcile your position with that of VJ. Can you try to reconcile your difference with Lencho, whom you seem to support fully. Or at least tell us where your views are different from Lencho.

Mamo Qilo

Dear Mamo:
This time I agree with you and will be falling into the trap of antagonizing with Lencho on the question of Ethiopian being colonial empire. In other words, I do not buy that Ethiopia is colonial empire and in this analysis lencho who is supporting the national questiond does not have to be in the same palace with Isayas, L'homme maladed du corne de L'Afrique.
LEncho story reminded me a stroy that a Somali man says that I do not eat the porc , but I can drink the soup.
Mr Lencho,Isays and to certain extent some of CUD members have been working in the same line of thinking in the last three months. For example, I listened frequently the Eritrean Amharic,Oromo and Arabic program that is daily beaming through the digital satellite and one will wonder the tsunami political crisis that is in making in Horn Africa. One of the most orator and articulated broacaster and used to read Awaj is the man who organizes a program called " Woyanew men Ilad". This will refresh your memory " Abiyatwi Madrak" program in the days of Derg and Negede Gobeze political destruction of EPRP.
In Eritrea, they have hijacked and use to fulfill its terrorist agenda OLF and ONLF.
That is not accceptable in the eyes of Ethiopian peole. I prefer Dr. Beyene Petros who is entertaining and uphilding the noble ideas of Ethiopain to live on equal footing. The late Dr. Abdilmajid Hussien, my mentor and big brother, used to say that you question their substance not thier ephermeral tactic.

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City: Washington DC

Ibrahim,

Islaama teessee fincooftu, xiraan kee nama hin deemsisu. Ajooftuu

Email: xa@hotmail.com

City: Atlantis

Qiilichaa,

Ya xawalwaalle, namamoo bineensa waan keen wallaale. Hidda bineensaa. Ya Qilo qilee bu'i.

City: Atlantis