Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
Dear Tana: What a beautiful resarch work you have done!!!Simply wonderful!!In the era of information,only those who rented their brains for financial security, and act as a talking macines for their masters, are blindly talk against facts and evidences. May God bless you so much, we are all proud of you!! Stay informed, that is a great asset my compatriot. Thank you so much for what you have done, it is not at all an easy task what you have accomplished. You have spent your time, energy, and other unseen scrifices to come up with all these invaluable information. I have big respect and admiration for your devotion and your willingness to clarify things patiently to these tribal bandits.
May God bless you abundantly. Information is the best peaceful weapon, to eradicate dictatorial government, like Woyane!
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
You know, the funny thing is it's only recently that majority of Ethiopians were even aware of ethnic importance thanks to Meles and Co. It used to be a shame to ask someone about their background, especially during HS time..I think most Ethiopians know and are not stupid be it Oromos and Somalis and others that after Meles is gone (if ethiopia survives) this tribal thing won't be a big deal at all, except as usual for the extreme minorities who are racists and will always be around.
Thank you for the post, it was educational and enlightenign!
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
King Menilike and King Haileselassie were very good leaders, they have opened colleges and universities.
Had not for King Menilike and King Haileselasie addis Abeba woud`t be discovered, just like America discovered by C. Colomus.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
The Amhras kings open schools and higher learning institutions only in Amhra dominated region,to their own tribe (Amhra Tribe). The Amhras dominated governments never allowed Non Amhra Ethiopians to be educated. that is why the Amhras kings and Amhra dominated governments refused to open schools and colleges in oromia regions,Tigreans regions or any place where Amhras do not live. That is the reason why today as speak there are more educated Amhras than Oromos,Tigreans,Wolayetas,Worages,Gambelas,Sidamos,Harrers and other non Amhra ethiopians.
this is also the same reason why more than 79% of ethiopias white collar job (Professional Job) still dominated by single tribe (Amhra Tribe).
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
Ababya,first of all you did not do your home work as Tana did,second you're not briliant as Tana,third if you realy smart and intelectual enogh where does Addis Ababa university,Asmara university,all tecnical school are in Addis the only doctrate school HIM ever built was in Gondar is now too old.Who have a gut accusing HIM a racist?
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
A friend told me Oromos gave shankela the name to Benshangul because they use to kill 5 Shankelas thus the name Shankela from Oromo language not from Amharic.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
DillingerJ1
Agames are strong & smart enough to work with the rest of Ethiopian people to kick out Mengistu's ass and handle you democracy with silver plate. The sad thing is you are blind and childish enough to know this let alone to use it properly.
What a sad Ethiopia have a person like you! MORON.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
G/Meles you wrote:
“You also should thank Agames to spare your life from Mengistu's knife. Had it not been the case, who knows what could it happen to you?”
This laughable! The answer is—Meles is Worse than Menegestu. It is only you and your Woyane friends are enjoying life at the present time.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
I cannot believe you are saying Meles is worse than Mengistu. I guess you live in a dream world. Keep dreaming. Mengistu was a nightmare to Ethiopia and Ethiopians, may be you should talk to the thousands, and thousands of parents who lost their children. Now I understand your deduction, Haileselasa was Amhara, Mengistu is Amhara therefore they cannot be bad. I really think you believe only Amharas are eligible to rule Ethiopia. I am not from Tigray, but I believe that Meles is doing a really good job. Ethiopia has a lot of challenges and there is no easy wand to fix all the problems over night… over all good job Meles. The fact he is from Tigray is irrelevant to me.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
People! Why include only HIM's Seleassie and Menelik?!?
The Greatest Ethiopian Hero's and Kings in mondern times are who have influenced the protection of Ethiopia from foreigners and had an effective policy of unity and togetherness:
1) Emperor Teodros (Father of ethio unity; Estblished a modern army and a policy of nation building)
2) Emperor Yohannis (Defeated in battle Egyptians, Sudanese, Arabs, kept Euros at bay, and continued Teodros's legacy of a united Ethiopia!)
3) Emperor Menelik (Expanded the Army, united southern Ethiopia, defeated the Italians for the first time with Ras/General Alula who founded Asmera)
4) Haile Selassie (Regained Eritrea, often said that he had no enemies, initiated a policy of all are one, too many to mention for this guy)
I thought you all should know that the Meles current Tigres are 100% different from just two generations ago! The generation of Tigrays from King Yohannis time are completley different that they would go to war with anger with todays WOYANE! for having an anti ethiopian view let alone sell the land of Tigray after winning a war with the tiny Sheabia! This would have been completly unacceptable! The traitors are many these days.
IT'S NOT JUST HIM's Selassie and Menelik. If people have a problem with them, they should at least come with facts and not what (OLF or EPLF) Propaganda WITHOUT FACTS tell them although Eritreans ate all that propaganda without question it?!? Hmm? I wonder if they are really driven crazy?! By the Italians that is...
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
Fact is, *The Amhras kings and The Amhra dominated governemnts for the last 200 years of Amhras domination of Ethiopia did not wanted 'Non Amhra Ethiopians' to be educated, W h y ? ? ?
*How come there never was college or University in Oromia ? *How come there never was college or University in Tigraye ? *How come there never was a single high school in Gambela ? *How come there never was a single college or University in harrer ? How come there never was a single hospital in Oromia ? How come there never was a single hospital in Tigraye or other Non Amhra regions ? ? ?
Why did The Amhras wanted to keep the rest of 'Non Amhra Ethiopians' in the darkness illitracy ? ?
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
King Menilike and King Haileselassie were loved as great leaders by Amhras, because These Amhra kings were comitted and gave every opportunity and access only to their own tribe (Amhra Tribe).
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
Yigermal,
Mengestu and Meles are both killers. I said Mengestu was better because he never tried to divide Ethiopia. I never knew Mengestu was Amhara. I am not Amhara my self. To me what matters is to have a great leader who has a great vision for all ethnic groups to lead us with compassion and kindness to the 21st century. Ethnic does not matter to me as long as the leader believes in one Ethiopia. Ethnicity only takes the country backwards like the rest of Africa who are killing each other everyday while the rest of the world are going ahead. Please, don’t think I am not aware of Mengestu’s cruelty. I have lost close family member my self. I just hate to see Ethiopia divided in pieces.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
Daka!
You seem perplexed with the issue of ethnicity. That is why your comment is mixed with this sensitive political issue of Ethiopia. To elaborate, while you admire Mengistu for not trying dividing Ethiopia along this issue, you at the same time wanted to see a leader who has a great vision for all ethnic groups.
Your wish is commendable which all we have been longing, but the problem is whether to realize the country has many nationalities with many questions or denying the existence of nationalities and their questions. If you see realizing them as dividing along ethnicity, there is no cure for that: Except more dividing and bloodshed.
As long as nationalities question is respect, your fear of Ethiopia's division into pieces will go in vain.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
G/Meles,
My friend, you have contradicted yourself one to many times as long as it serves your master. As long as I remember I never heard of bloodshed among ethnic groups till Meles came to power. Meles knows if we unite, as one he would be doomed. For this very reason you people have been trying to create chaos between Amharas and other ethnic groups. I won’t fall for your propaganda. You came to power to benefit your own people not to benefit all the other ethnic groups. The facts are clear. You are enjoying life as we know it, while others are suffering.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
What is wrong with embracing ones culture and ethnicity? What is wrong with respecting differences? I don't think Meles policy is creating Ethnic tension; it is some Ethiopians in the Diaspora that are flaming Ethnic tensions. I was in Ethiopia recently, and I was pleasantly surprised to learn Ethiopians in general get along very well, and hardly talk about the so-called Ethnic divide. The theory of Ethnic divide is mainly discussed and promoted by some Ethiopians living in the West. I hate to say it but some Ethiopians in the Diaspora are creating an environment of hate and intolerance. If you don’t believe me take only a few minutes to read comments on Ethiopian Review and Ethiomedia. Religious, and Ethnic insults are commonplace. I urge all peace loving Ethiopian in the Diaspora to take active interest in politics and silence the minority extremists.
Remember we are all ETHIOPIAN no matter which ethnic group we belong.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
If you think I am a Wayane, so be it. I am just stating the facts as I see them. What I am is an Ethiopian that has been silent for too long and let extremists rule the web.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
If culprit Amhras ought to have peace the great people of oromos, then The Amhras must immediatelly and unconditionally cease colonizing oromos land, and withdraw from Oromos land (Showa Province, included Addis Abeba). If Not The bllod shed between culprit Amhras and The great people of oromos is inevitable fact.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
"but Menelik had to unite his people if he was to confront the Italian threat successfully. This was a gradual process involving extensive technological modernization as much as political maneuvering but he was eventually able to raise a large, well armed multiethnic army of 100000. Outside Adwa ( or Adwa) on march 1896, Menelik II personally led his army to defeat an Italian and Eritrean force of around 15000 troops, of which a third were actually Italians troops. The Crispi government fell and the Italian retreated to Eritrea. Ethiopia soveregnity was no longer questioned."
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
Yohannis,you a tegre right?oh yes tegres trying so hard making Emperor Tewodros equal to Yohaness or any one else.At Meqdella one observer and serviver sang''Meqdela li chuhete berekete, tegre alayehume(Yohaness) negergene ande sewu zare mote''
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
Kasahun M,
Peace be with you.It seems to me you are not at peace with yourself leave alone others.I hate to see your disparaging remarks and false accusations.Haile Selassie was a respected old man by respected people all over the world.He was not ethnically driven in whatever he does.
Let me correct you once and for all about the longevity of the rule of Amhara kings over the southern part of Ethiopia.It was not more than 80 years combined by Menelik and Haile Selassie.Do not talk about 200 years which is an outright lie.
About not opening universities and hospitals in non-Amhara areas is also another outrageous lie.In Haile Selassie's time there were two universities.One was in Addis Ababa with affiliated colleges at Alemaya College and Gondar.The other university was in Asmara.That is it.There were colleges at Jimma and Ambo.Figure it out where these places are and you will get answers to your questions.
About hospitals I can't say much because I do not know the whole of Ethiopia.What I can say though is hospitals were built in the large towns only due to financial constraints.I have no doubt the southern provinces had more hospitals more than the north.Unlike your unfounded assertios that was how things operated.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
Where did you get your info? Why was such a list gathered?
Other thank some people having a lot of time on their hands it is ironic that you don't see the reason why these names were gathered.
"Habesha" in general are obsessed with the ethnicity of people. I find such a list isolating & dividing.
BTW, some of these people are/were well educated. Their titles actually do not suffice their educational background. Perhaps if it wasn't for their ethnical background they would have gotten a higher post.
Just my opinion.
Re: Why some idiots are blaming our heros HIM Haileselassie and Emperor minilik being as racist???
To the readers and writers of this page as we all know that Ethiopia is a country of so many ethnic groups which does not matter any more, but when we write about some ones ethnicity we have to make sure it is fact and right.And make sure to give the mixture of everyones ethnicity because as we all know we do have lots of people with that identity.As a mater of fact when you write about my father and my ankle you forgot that their father is amhara and their mother is gurage but you put them as gurages in this case how many of them you put as confused as others like they have to forgot half their ethnicity, please next time if you dont know dont do it.by the way they are KIFLE ERGETU and TESHOME ERGETU.And as you and me know that his imperial majesty Haile Selassie I was from Amhara father and Gurage mother so just to make sure you know