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The Long Awaited Millennium/Total Onslaught

This is a study that has been under careful consideration by Steven and passed on to me, which I have watched, comparing Water Veigh's words with the many other studies we have done along with the Bible and the Books of the Apocrypha, which have been left out for obvious reasons. With that being said, I will pass it along for your own consideration the various topics Walter spoke about and the few areas that I do question. Do we agree with all that Mr. Veith says? Of course not. Does he make a whole lot of sense in most of it? Yes, he does. Gerlinda

When Walter Veith gets to the portion where he explains where the Dead in Christ have gone along with the Living, he mentions Heaven. ( This is about the 30 minute mark.) This sounds correct to him for one reason and that is he, apparently, has not read The Book of Enoch nor others, that speak of the place that God told Adam and Eve that He would return them once He came, as the Lamb of God, to redeem them from their loss and return them to where He placed them. The books make it very clear that once God had created Adam and Eve, He placed them up to "Paradise", a special place apart from Heaven and all was perfect for them there until they disobeyed and ate from the True of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Follow me? Then, what happened? They were banished from Paradise and placed down into the Garden of Eden (which is here on earth).

Therefore, when all the Saints are gathered (dead and living), where do they return? According to the Book of Enoch, I and II Book of Adam & Eve, they will return to Paradise.

This Paradise is also the place where all the Saints of God will go and therefore, is rightfully called, "The Bride of Christ. Yes, that is what Paradise is...The New Jerusalem which contains The Bride of Christ...which commeth down. John 21:2 That is why the reference to The New Jerusalem being The Bride of Christ is made. Mr. Joe Ortiz also made that connection. This is the place that Jesus spoke of where He would go and prepare a place for His Bride. After all, it had been kept locked up after the Fall of Adam & Eve. But we know, that Jesus Christ led Adam, Eve and all of the OT Saints back to the place prepared for them, Paradise.

So, please listen to Dr. Veith's presentation with that factor in mind, as he explains the rest of what takes place during that 1,000 years when Satan is bound by his circumstances, which means he doesn't have anyone left to fool, to tempt, to rule, because the earth is now void, the unrighteous have perished.

Please listen as he explains the Four comings of Christ:

1. As a Babe
2. As The Ancient of Days ( Daniel 7)
3. The Glory (Second Coming)
4. To Restore the Earth and set up His Kingdom

The issue of the Millennium Reign of Christ has been a source of confusion among Believers throughout Church history since several versions are taught. You will be told the difference between the various theology and then discussed, with scripture, the one where only Christ Himself could qualify as The Reign of Christ. He is the only one that can resurrect the Dead of Revelation 20:5.

Mr. Veigh then tells how all these unrighteous Dead will be raised from the Dead and Satan will be allowed to led them, once again, in battle against the Lord.

And who is it that will be tormented day and night forever? It will be the Devil, False Prophet and Anti-Christ. Revelation 20:10. The unrighteous Dead will be exterminated in the Fire. Their suffering will be the same as one that is burned totally up in fire. That is the Second Death. But it does not last forever as we have been taught.

Walter Veigh does tell us there is a difference between The Battle of Armageddon and The Battle of Gog & Magog.

Contrary to how we have heard, while under the teaching of the Rapture, we were told The Battle of Gog & Magog happens first, then the Rapture and then 7 years later is the return of Jesus Christ. Oh, my what a mix up, we have been spoon fed. Gog & Magog actually means, "Hidden" and sure enough, it is hidden until after the 1,000 years and will be the final battle that the Devil will gather his dead whom Christ brought back to life and make battle against The New Jerusalem, which has come down. What happened to them? "Fire came down from Heaven and Devoured them". Revelation 22:9

Psalm 37:20 "Into Smoke, shall they consume away". Psalm 21:9 "The Fire shall devour them."

The case for loss of Eternal life is made in the rest of the video, rather than the teaching we have believed that the unrighteous suffer the fires of Hell forever. The Believer gains Eternal Life, the unbeliever does not receive this Gift of Jesus Chrsit.

Even Lucifer and his fallen angels will eventually be burned up, NO MORE of him or his.

While this is a great study, one must compare scripture and study all of the resources and pray for the Holy Spirit for His discernment to determine just how accurate this account is that is taught by Walter Veigh. It will not suite those that believe in a pre-7 year Tribulation Rapture, of course but they would be wise to begin to study with an open mind and with the Bible in their own hands.

235 - The Long Awaited Millennium / Total Onslaught - Walter Veith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW0R9BmjWZo


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