Hi Everyone, ( some random comments below )

If you submit posts to FIVE DOVES and they don't post them are you banned?



I have submitted over 20 videos, article or commentaries to FIVE DOVES but they don't get posted.

They don't respond when I ask why my posts are not accepted. ( At least they have not responded recently )


They have on their site the quote:

"Please send your letters, questions, articles or reports to John Tng at spirit5@singnet.com.sg.

Please note that it is impossible for even two like-minded souls to agree on everything. You should read these letters with this in mind and pray for understanding from the Spirit of Truth. Thank you. "

So they do not even line up with their own posts on their site:

I guess that depends on what "banned" "IS" to some people.


Many have been banned from this site ( Rapture bible prophecy forum ) for:

1. Trying to teach Talmud or kabbalah teachings as truth.

2. Arguing with people but not sharing scripture for their position.

3. For continuing to propagate a false 7 year pre tribulation rapture without even reading or watching the videos they argued against.

4. For talking with me on the phone for hours telling me why they were too busy to watch a hour or hour and half video that explained the reason why a 7 year pre tribulation rapture theory was false but defended that false teaching ( again they did this for hours on the phone over a period of ONE year but did NOT have the time to watch the videos???!) ( This same person has admitted to me at that time they had NOT even read the WHOLE bible cover to cover )

5. ( Some were banned: )For being shown scripture why the false celebration of PAGAN holidays was against the scripture when being shown but refusing to humble themselves and be TEACHABLE..........for not answering replies to their comments that clearly showed they were wrong in their teaching but refusing to admit that they made errors.

NOTE: ( I, Steven ) I ONCE believed in a false 7 year pre tribulation rapture theory.

I have made many errors in my understanding of scripture, I'm not all knowing and am always praying for discernment, understanding of scripture and to be open for correction.


I am learning everyday through prayer and reading of scriptures.



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GUESS WHAT?

THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF THE 7 YEAR PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE DOCTRINE IS BEING EXPOSED FOR THE FALSE TEACHING THAT IT IS .......

JFH HAS BEEN ABLE TO POST ON FIVE DOVES WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SHARE FOR YEARS ON FIVE DOVES.

Thank you JFH for your post that slipped in on FIVE DOVES.

We have also shared on this site:

WHO is ISRAEL: Once you get this and the false 7 year pre tribulation rapture theory correct the bible is more able to be understood!

Link:

Zionist Occult Connection

http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3330765498&frmid=9385&msgid=925249&cmd=show



WE on rapture bible prophecy forum are NOT anti semitic

We are not SDA members!

We believe the BIBLE is the INERRANT WORD OF GOD.

We believe JESUS is God's Son ( JESUS is God )


We believe the HOLY SPIRIT will teach you all things!


We pray for the peace of Jerusalem.


We ask God to use us to share the GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST with the WHOLE WORLD we ask to share JESUS WITH EVERYONE!!! ( EVERYONE MEANS EVERYONE!!!)
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We will be here at least until AFTER 2015 ( my speculation is that we will be here until 2017! ) Time will tell based on my understanding of the bible at this point and time.

God Bless

Steven


Link:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2014/jfh622.htm

jfh (22 June 2014)
"jfh reply to: Pastor Bob"



Pastor Bob you said: “The rules of grammar preclude [impossible] "He" being Christ in Daniel 9:27. It behooves me as to how people remain in ignorance when the scholarship, of credible language experts offer irrefutable (?) evidence to the contrary.”



Daniel 9:27 [KJV] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Dan 9:27 [Geneva] And he a shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to b cease, c and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.
(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.
(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.


Dan 9:24 [Geneva] Seventy p weeks are determined upon q thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the r transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


(p) He alludes to Jeremiahs prophecy, who prophesied that their captivity would be seventy years: but now Gods mercy would exceed his judgment seven times as much, which would be 490 years, even until the coming of Christ, and so then it would continue forever.
(q) Meaning Daniels nation, over whom he was careful.
(r) To show mercy and to put sin out of remembrance.



Christ’s ministry ended at 62 weeks

Passion week was 1 week and that was the 63rd week

7 weeks later was Pentecost and was the 70th week

62 + 1 + 7 = 70 weeks when the Holy Spirit came down and filled those 120 in the Upper Room



Remember in the midst of Passion week Jesus was crucified, died and arose on the third day.



From the moment Christ arose from the dead our sins were forgiven. Now we must believe and receive that forgiveness and repent of our sins, then we invite the Holy Spirit to enter. At that time we become a part of that third temple: Jesus being the cornerstone of that third temple and foundation stone.



It was Titus that came and destroyed the 2nd temple many years later. It’s all in the Good Book...any version you want to pick up and read, even Josephus. Jesus confirmed the NEW COVENANT WITH HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION. No more animal sacrifice was acceptable after his Acceptable Year. Luke 4:18-21

jfh

1st question? If you submit posts to FIVE DOVES and they don't post them are you banned?

First, let's look at what a ban is before answering this:

http://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_(law)

By the definition given above, it is apparent that some kind of action is taken to keep one's comments, ideas from being allowed. Do you notice the term of it being used for the benefit of "public safety". I assume this would cover Biblical doctrine safety. Does ignoring a post, by constantly not posting on a site, qualify as a ban? I think so.

You will notice that the moderator of this site has given his reasons for the bans he put upon people. And he did not just ignore them but let it be known clearly why the ban was put into place.

1. Trying to teach Talmud or kabbalah teachings as truth.

2. Arguing with people but not sharing scripture for their position.

3. For continuing to propagate a false 7 year pre tribulation rapture without even reading or watching the videos they argued against.

4. For talking with me on the phone for hours telling me why they were too busy to watch a hour or hour and half video that explained the reason why a 7 year pre tribulation rapture theory was false but defended that false teaching.....

Over the past year, I have noticed one very important thing about this Forum. The consistency of the Moderator to proclaim what he stands for such doctrines as Jesus Christ is the Son of God, etc. I've also noticed that, although he may not agree with a person, they are given the liberty (using the Bible as a source) to post their views. One cannot just get on this forum and say, "I don't like this or I don't agree" without giving the Biblical or Historical reason for why that claim is made. Also, it is made clear that no comment ought to be made on a post unless, first totally viewed or read. That is fair enough, isn't it. A teacher doesn't give the exam before the lesson, does he? No, he waits until the the lessons are read, discussed thoroughly and then he gives the student opportunity to speak on the subject at hand.

Also, common courtesy is to be used, which is common sense: so much more is gained by speaking with the same consideration that one wants himself. If it isn't done, it may cause no more post to be allowed. Also, false accusations are not allowed but will be cleared up just as soon as possible. All in all, good back and forth debates are to be had here if these are used. Have we all come on here acting in that manner? No, but we have learned to follow this Biblical technique which does produce harmony even in our disagreements.

This Forum has the most complete information by many, many different authors on such a huge variety that is covered in the Bible that you can't even begin to cover it all. It is like a College Course all year long. With all of this available, the moderator has not drifted from the stand that he makes concerning the dangers of believing in a pre-tribulation Rapture. He understands from the multitude of information given about false church doctrine, the times in which we live, the latest news each day, published by solid men of faith. He also understands that the Signs in the Heavens are playing out in our day, in technicolor, you could say as you look up to the heavens and see things never seen before in our life-time.

"Why is Steven so insistent regarding the pre-tribulation Rapture?" is something I asked myself after being on this Forum for this length of time. It seems to dominate his very being (besides being born-again through Christ Jesus) Has any of his critics ever considered that he can't stand the thought of the multitudes of people who won't be able to endure the days ahead...days that the Bible tells are so horrible that men's hearts will fail them for what they see coming upon the earth? No, I don't think so. Instead he is regard as a renegade of sorts who will not accept the false teaching handed down for so, so long now AND they are correct about that BUT they have taken personal swipes against him that should be left private between the parties. Isnt' that the decent thing to do?

Yep! Steven is consistent and according to the definition above, is seen as a threat against the Public Acceptance of a False Teaching.

On a ban, what is more kind, a ban that can be read, heard or understood or just ignoring someone as if they are nobody?

Gerlinda

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