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Welcome! This forum is about interpersonal manipulation (especially in its extreme forms) and also about how we are all the hero of our own stories, our own lives.

Highly manipulative relationships and groups include battering relationships, cults, and many others which are more subtle and therefore harder to spot. Being a healthy hero is centered on the opposite -- becoming as autonomous as possible and endorsing the autonomy of others.

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Subject:   new drama
Name:   CG
Date Posted:   Apr 7, 06 - 7:58 AM
Message:   Well, Beth, more has happened. When I got home last night, Kevin was there. He seemed really upbeat and seemed more like his "old self" than I have seen in years. He is really such a sweet and funny guy.

Anyways, he left at about 8:30 to go over to his friend John's house. Shortly after he left, she began calling. I didn't know what to do, because Jeff and Norman are out of town on a golfing trip, so I was there alone with my 2 year old son. I didn't answer the calls. I called Jeff, and she had also been calling Norman's cell phone again, despite the fact that he had told her the day before NEVER to call his cell again.

Anyways, I tried to call Kevin at John's, but the phone was busy (perhaps off the hook, because it was like that all night). Jeff called me back and said that Jennifer had called Norman again, and that he told her never to call our house again. She responded that she was on her way over to the house, and that she would "sit out there all night if she had to." Norman told her that if she showed up, he would call the police (she doesn't know he's in NC). She responded, "Whatever," and hung up.

I was alone with Lathan and thinking that Jennifer was on her way over, so I packed up quickly and Lathan and I went to my mom's house for the night (and I'm guessing tonight too -- until the guys get back on Sat.) She called one last time before I left, and I answered and said, "I am documenting all of these phone calls. If you continue to call here, we will file a harrassment suit." and hung up. I don't know if she called back, because we left, and I haven't been back to the house.

I called the police and asked them to please patrol the area and told them of her past b and e and grand larceny, etc. I don't know what happened after I left. Jeff talked to Kevin briefly this morning, but he didn't seem to want to talk, and he just said not to worry, that everything was going to be fine.

She is doing what so many abusers do...convincing him that he can't get away, no matter what.

I am checking into what we need to do in order to get a restraining order against her. I feel like I need to talk to Kevin, but I am at work, and I really don't know where HE is right now...and maybe I should leave that up to Jeff. Norman said that Kevin said he's worried about how this is affecting us, but Beth, if he goes back because of the harrassment, that is only PROLONGING this and dragging it out. Nothing will change, and we will have to face more drama in the future.

I remember that you said once that if a person returns to the manipulator, that means that they never really intended to disafiliate in the first place. Does that also apply here? In a situation where they feel that they CAN'T get away?

Do you have any advice?
-CG
Replies:    
Re: new drama by CG · Apr 7, 06 - 9:01 AM
Re: new drama by Beth · Apr 7, 06 - 10:50 AM
Re: Re: new drama by CG · Apr 7, 06 - 12:31 PM
Re: Re: Re: new drama by CG · Apr 10, 06 - 12:22 PM
Re: new drama by Beth · Apr 10, 06 - 1:20 PM


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